Can Christians reject Christianity?

Argue for and against Christianity

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
McCulloch
Site Supporter
Posts: 24063
Joined: Mon May 02, 2005 9:10 pm
Location: Toronto, ON, CA
Been thanked: 3 times

Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #1

Post by McCulloch »

JP Cusick wrote:I myself reject Christianity while I still claim myself to be a Christian.
Is this possible? Can a Christian reject Christianity? Do words have meaning?
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 21140
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 794 times
Been thanked: 1128 times
Contact:

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #2

Post by JehovahsWitness »

[Replying to post 1 by McCulloch]

I don't think a Christian can reject "christianity" but that would depend on what the individual means. I would say personally as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I reject what I believe to be "false Christianity" or "apostate christianity" that is the form of Christianity that emerged in the second century departed from the system of teaching Jesus instituted as recorded in the gospels (by first century disciples of that one).
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Monta
Guru
Posts: 2029
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:29 am
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #3

Post by Monta »

McCulloch wrote:
JP Cusick wrote:I myself reject Christianity while I still claim myself to be a Christian.
Is this possible? Can a Christian reject Christianity? Do words have meaning?
We'd be lost if the words did not have meaning.
You can not claim to be a Christian at the same time reject it.

User avatar
marco
Savant
Posts: 12314
Joined: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:15 pm
Location: Scotland
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #4

Post by marco »

[quote="McCulloch"]


Christianity is one of the multiple offshoots of the teaching of Paul who used Christ as a starting point on which to build a new religion. Very loosely Christianity is based on things Jesus is alleged to have taught, edited by Paul.

To be a Christian it is important to believe in what Paul has taught and, to a lesser extent, what Christ preached. Someone claiming to do this is a Christian. There isn't a good way of differentiating the multiple beliefs that make a Christian a Christian so if somebody on the number nine bus says he's a Christian, he's a Christian. Had he said it in Rome a couple of thousand years earlier he'd be a dead Christian.

User avatar
tam
Savant
Posts: 6443
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:59 pm
Has thanked: 353 times
Been thanked: 324 times
Contact:

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #5

Post by tam »

Peace to you!
McCulloch wrote:
JP Cusick wrote:I myself reject Christianity while I still claim myself to be a Christian.
Is this possible? Can a Christian reject Christianity? Do words have meaning?

Assuming that the poster meant Christendom (organized/institutionalized religion; all the various sects and denominations, ie, daughters), then yes, absolutely!


We were not told to follow a religion; to listen to a religion; to obey a religion. NO religion is the truth; ie, there is NO true religion.


There is only Truth: Christ.


He is the One we are told to follow; to listen to; to obey. HE is the ONE mediator between man and God. There is no other mediator (such as a religion) for us to go through. Only Christ.



**

He did not set up a new religion and neither did He promote an old religion.

“Sir,� the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.�

“Woman,� [Jesus] replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in Truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.



**

Christ is Himself the Rock, upon which He will build His Church (made of people)... using the faith that Peter showed, when God revealed to Peter that Jaheshua was the Messiah.




Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

liamconnor
Prodigy
Posts: 3170
Joined: Sun May 31, 2015 1:18 pm

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #6

Post by liamconnor »

[Replying to post 1 by McCulloch]

I think some people mean by 'Christian' nothing more than its ethical content; which itself is greatly reduced to being kind to one another. Thus to reject Christianity may entail rejecting the supernatural content, while retaining examples for behavior, like Christ's self-sacrifice.

I think this is very unhelpful nomenclature. Why not say "I remain a humanitarian, or philanthropist" or simply "I believe in love and kindness" or "I think Jesus was a great moral teacher"?

dio9
Under Probation
Posts: 2275
Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:01 pm

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #7

Post by dio9 »

[Replying to post 1 by McCulloch]

I don't know how we can reject Christianity. Check your history Christianity is the ethics and values the foundation of western civilization. Our culture, western civilization , our way of thinking theologizing and philosophizing is Christianity. We are all of us who embrace western civilizatio are christian. Whether we know it or not. We can evolve our thought toward embracing the east but at the root we are still Christian. The only thing we need to watch out for in our expanding religious consciousness is making eastern thought western thought. . We may be open to eastern thought or atheism but we can never completely leave Christianity. That is who we are.

User avatar
marco
Savant
Posts: 12314
Joined: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:15 pm
Location: Scotland
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #8

Post by marco »

liamconnor wrote:
Why not say "I remain a humanitarian, or philanthropist" or simply "I believe in love and kindness" or "I think Jesus was a great moral teacher"?

This, Liam, is one of the best and most interesting suggestions you've made. What a world we'd have if everyone complied. But alas, God gets in the way, and folk get killed.

User avatar
Clownboat
Savant
Posts: 9381
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:42 pm
Has thanked: 906 times
Been thanked: 1260 times

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #9

Post by Clownboat »

McCulloch wrote:
JP Cusick wrote:I myself reject Christianity while I still claim myself to be a Christian.
Is this possible? Can a Christian reject Christianity? Do words have meaning?
Depends on how he is using the word 'Christian'.

Perhaps he is talking about not eating meat when he uses the word Christian? So he could be saying he doesn't eat meat, but he does eat fish.

We could refer to a dictionary, but to do so, according to him is to worship.

For example:
JP Cusick: "It is worship of a dictionary when you view it and preach it as infallible and literal. "

Preaching that a dictionary is infallible!... The way he uses words truly confuses me.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco

If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb

User avatar
JP Cusick
Guru
Posts: 1556
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:25 pm
Location: 20636 USA
Contact:

Re: Can Christians reject Christianity?

Post #10

Post by JP Cusick »

McCulloch wrote:
JP Cusick wrote:I myself reject Christianity while I still claim myself to be a Christian.
Is this possible? Can a Christian reject Christianity? Do words have meaning?
Christianity means the entire company of people.

Christian means one person - me myself and I.

But for the record, the name Christian is not set in stone (nor set in a dictionary).

The word "Christian" (Christos) in the Bible was what people called the followers of Christ as Christians (first in Antioch) but it was not meant as a nice name, and the followers of Christ did not like that name calling, and it was Peter who said not to resist that name as it is better that than to be called an evil doer. See 1 Peter 4:14-16
SIGNATURE:

An unorthodox Theist & a heretic Christian:

Post Reply