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If there were a Biblical God, wouldn't we find a lot more life in the universe?

If life has purpose, and including the whole apple story,etc., we should see life everywhere, by design.

At least that is the premise, any counter-views?

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Willum wrote: If there were a Biblical God, wouldn't we find a lot more life in the universe?

If life has purpose, and including the whole apple story,etc., we should see life everywhere, by design.
I have no idea how you reached this conclusion

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[Replying to post 2 by Justin108]

One of the indicators of intelligence is the opposite of stupidity:

Doing the same thing over again to get good results.
For example, fire, cars, hammers, etc..

If something created life, wouldn't it do it over, or create similar conditions?

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Willum wrote: [Replying to post 2 by Justin108]

One of the indicators of intelligence is the opposite of stupidity:

Doing the same thing over again to get good results.
For example, fire, cars, hammers, etc..
Only if these things have practical purposes. What would be the practical purpose of creating life all over the universe? And how do you know there isn't life out there somewhere?
Willum wrote: If something created life, wouldn't it do it over, or create similar conditions?
There are literally billions of lifeforms on earth. Evidently, if God exists, he did create life over and over again.

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Yes, yes, yes, I don't have answers for those questions.
Now, back to the premise.

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Willum wrote: [Replying to post 4 by Justin108]
Yes, yes, yes, I don't have answers for those questions.
Now, back to the premise.
Well I pretty much refuted your premise

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No, you just noticed things going on here on Earth which are ambivalent, and tried to say they were germane.
You ignored the premise/assumption of intelligence or purpose.
You went for the easy answers to dismiss a challenging issue, or simply used "I don't know," as an answer.

How do I know there isn't life in the universe?
Because we don't see evidence.

Oh, wait, that's not the same, is it? Therefore we can't use it to draw conclusions.

So, the positive assumptions of God and life asks the question, "if it was worth doing once, why not once per star," for example?

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Willum wrote: [Replying to post 6 by Justin108]

No, you just noticed things going on here on Earth which are ambivalent, and tried to say they were germane.
You ignored the premise/assumption of intelligence or purpose.
You went for the easy answers to dismiss a challenging issue, or simply used "I don't know," as an answer.
I didn't. I asked you to explain why an intelligent creator would need to create life everywhere in order to be considered intelligent. I asked you to support your premise.
Willum wrote: How do I know there isn't life in the universe?
Because we don't see evidence.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Statistically speaking, it is highly likely that life exists elsewhere.
Willum wrote: So, the positive assumptions of God and life asks the question, "if it was worth doing once, why not once per star," for example?
If once was enough, why would it be necessary to do it for every star?

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I didn't. I asked you to explain why an intelligent creator would need to create life everywhere in order to be considered intelligent. I asked you to support your premise.
And for the same reason we don't build just one car.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Statistically speaking, it is highly likely that life exists elsewhere.
You don't know is an answer? Unacceptable, if you are going to participate. We aren't talking statistics, we are talking God, see the difference?
If once was enough, why would it be necessary to do it for every star?
"Every star," is just a starting place, do you have a more logical starting point assuming God created life?

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Willum wrote: If there were a Biblical God, wouldn't we find a lot more life in the universe?

If life has purpose, and including the whole apple story,etc., we should see life everywhere, by design.

At least that is the premise, any counter-views?
We would only find more life in the universe if the god creature wanted more life in the universe. The god wanted to create life here, that's why life is here. Perhaps it created life elsewhere, and just didn't mention it in the "divine" musings it gave to Earthlings. But since it is has free will, it could of just created life here, saw what a mess it made of the whole thing, and took up scrapbooking as a new hobby...

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