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A question to Creationists:

If the Bible said people evolved from animals, would you be an evolutionist? Would the fact that the theory of evolution agrees with your holy book be enough to sway your belief in favor of evolution?

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Justin108 wrote: A question to Creationists:

If the Bible said people evolved from animals, would you be an evolutionist? Would the fact that the theory of evolution agrees with your holy book be enough to sway your belief in favor of evolution?
It would be really difficult for me, because if the evolution theory is true and all species have evolved from single species, I believe it should be seen easily in nature, because there is allegedly over millions of species. I understand that it is claimed to be slow process, but when there is a lot of species, there should be also lot of opportunities. And there just doesn’t seem to be any chance for animals have as great differences by evolution, as it is claimed to be (marine animals to land animals for example).

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[Replying to post 1 by Justin108]

Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution.

There are numerous Christians who believe in creation but accept that evolution, as described by scientists, MIGHT be the mechanism by which God brought his creative project to a climax.

I say MIGHT only because the scientific evidence is still lacking.

If the question is merely, "If the Bible told you so, would you believe" the answer is most certainly no.

And that for most people. Even the most unthinking and uncalculating people believe because some parts of the bible strike them as deeply true, and, I think, not without evidence.

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liamconnor wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Justin108]
Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution.
Everyone hold onto your hats, but I'm actually going to agree with liam on this one.

There are so many flavors of Christian it's hard to pin down what any person believes simply because they label themselves as a Christian or even a Creationist.

Maybe a better term for the OP would be a Bible Literalist. i.e. Someone who believes every word of the Bible is true, as written. You probably still won't pin any two of them down to proclaim exactly the same complete set of beliefs (given the contradictions in the writings), but if there were only one sentence that clearly said "evolution" I think you would have them.

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liamconnor wrote: Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution...
And the Swastika does not designate far-right nationalism or anti-Semitism, but those are the meanings that's since been strongly attached with it. Good luck trying to bring the term back when it's got so much negativity associated with it. Meanwhile I will continue to treat "creationist" without further qualification as someone who opposes evolution.

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Bust Nak wrote:
liamconnor wrote: Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution...
And the Swastika does not designate far-right nationalism or anti-Semitism, but those are the meanings that's since been strongly attached with it. Good luck trying to bring the term back when it's got so much negativity associated with it. Meanwhile I will continue to treat "creationist" without further qualification as someone who opposes evolution.
Certainly, to each his own.

I am Christian and I do not believe that God creted the world in six days.
What does that make me?

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Monta wrote:
Bust Nak wrote:
liamconnor wrote: Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution...
And the Swastika does not designate far-right nationalism or anti-Semitism, but those are the meanings that's since been strongly attached with it. Good luck trying to bring the term back when it's got so much negativity associated with it. Meanwhile I will continue to treat "creationist" without further qualification as someone who opposes evolution.
Certainly, to each his own.

I am Christian and I do not believe that God creted the world in six days.
What does that make me?
Theistic evolutionist.

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Bust Nak wrote:
Monta wrote:
Bust Nak wrote:
liamconnor wrote: Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution...
And the Swastika does not designate far-right nationalism or anti-Semitism, but those are the meanings that's since been strongly attached with it. Good luck trying to bring the term back when it's got so much negativity associated with it. Meanwhile I will continue to treat "creationist" without further qualification as someone who opposes evolution.
Certainly, to each his own.

I am Christian and I do not believe that God creted the world in six days.
What does that make me?
Theistic evolutionist.
I'm going to have to correct you on this one Bust Nak. At the moment, I can't recall Monta's stance on evolution. What you did there smacks of a false dichotomy to me. Monta says no to the six days created world, but this does not necessarily mean that s/he accepts evolution. Monta could believe something separate to both evolution and young earth creationism.
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Bust Nak wrote:
liamconnor wrote: Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution...
And the Swastika does not designate far-right nationalism or anti-Semitism, but those are the meanings that's since been strongly attached with it. Good luck trying to bring the term back when it's got so much negativity associated with it. Meanwhile I will continue to treat "creationist" without further qualification as someone who opposes evolution.
So, is it therefore also justified to require all who accept the concept of evolution, based on current bacterial studies, to defend a specific evolutionary progression, i.e. dinosaurs were reptiles or dinosaurs were birds? Does the entire theory collapse, if man evolved from pigs or dolphins? If all of mankind did not evolve from a single tribe in what is now Sudan, does that collapse the theory?

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Bust Nak wrote:
liamconnor wrote: Creationist is a term that does not designate persons opposed to evolution...
And the Swastika does not designate far-right nationalism or anti-Semitism, but those are the meanings that's since been strongly attached with it. Good luck trying to bring the term back when it's got so much negativity associated with it. Meanwhile I will continue to treat "creationist" without further qualification as someone who opposes evolution.
Well, you'll be behind the times. But if you do not care to be precise and address members of this actual forum, you are free to do so.

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