Did Jesus and or John the Baptist believe in Trinity?

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Did Jesus and or John the Baptist believe in Trinity?

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Did Jesus and or John the Baptist believe in Trinity? Please
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Re: Did Jesus and or John the Baptist believe in Trinity?

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[Replying to post 1 by paarsurrey1]

To add further:
They both were followers of Moses. Not to speak of Trinity, they never uttered Trinity from their mouths.
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It is further added:
One may go through the whole OT/Torah, one will not find any messengers/prophets believing in Trinity.

Is Trinity an attempt to carve a "Golden Calf" in Jesus' times like they did in the Moses' times, please?

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The concept of the Trinity falls out from trying to understand the Bible. The concept has been around long enough that people that disagree should first be able to understand how others can see it.

Do you understand how the concept of the Trinity arose?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: The concept of the Trinity falls out from trying to understand the Bible. The concept has been around long enough that people that disagree should first be able to understand how others can see it.

Do you understand how the concept of the Trinity arose?
Nope, would you care to explain?

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Of course but I really want to gauge paarsurry1's knowledge first.

It's pointless from his perspective to attack something if he doesn't understand it.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: The concept of the Trinity falls out from trying to understand the Bible. The concept has been around long enough that people that disagree should first be able to understand how others can see it.

Do you understand how the concept of the Trinity arose?
My understanding is:
It started off as other societies* in those times also believed in Trinity, and Paul/Church and their associates wanted to open Pauline Christianity to the gentiles, so to make it more acceptable to them they started it off. Jesus was only for the Jews, it was a mistake of Paul/Church and their associates to start it. Right, please?
* Like Sumeria, Babylonia, Greece, and Egypt.
https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/b ... ion-of-the
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Yes but that isn't an understanding of the Trinity. For the sake of argument let's assume your last statement is true.

Now, what is the Trinity?
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Also do you think Jesus believed his purpose was to die on the cross?
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Wootah wrote: [Replying to post 8 by Wootah]

Also do you think Jesus believed his purpose was to die on the cross?
Jesus" purpose was the same as was of Moses to establish that Beni-Israel worship One-True-God truly:
Deuteronomy 6:4
"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

Deuteronomy 6:5
"You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

Deuteronomy 10:12
"Now, Israel, what does the LORD your God require from you, but to fear the LORD your God, to walk in all His ways and love Him, and to serve the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul,
Matthew 22:36
"Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?"

Matthew 22:38
This is the first and greatest commandment.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/22-37.htm

Right, please?

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