I come across this theme of wanting to have your cake and eat it too, when talking to Christians, and hearing what Apologists have to say, how they spin and tap-dance, all too often. And, though there are many examples, the idea to examine, is that many Christians want to point to their Bible as divinely inspired by God, and so, must ignore that which is unpleasant in order to construct a fluid narrative.
Short-hand examples of this might look like, something as general as Morality, and as specific as Slavery.
The idea that, even many Christians are willing to accept that there are simply things in the Bible that they have no explanation for, barbaric and immoral things, but that they will trust the god of the bible, regardless.
It troubles me deeply, how otherwise concerned, moral people have to give up their own humanity in order to support their Religion.
And yes, it irritates me that, often, these are the people who assume the moral high-ground.
Your cake and eating it too; Christian dishonesty.
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Post #71What is your basis for this claim?bluethread wrote: Groups who support white supremacy like the KKK are a miniscule minority of Trump supporters and Christians.
People who identify with the KKK certainly are in the minority, but one has to be incredibly naive not to see that Trump's history, statements, and actions are obviously racist. Yet he was elected. Besides identifying with the GOP, the number one factor in his election was the people who see 'their' way of life being displaced by minorities and immigrants.
"White working-class voters who say they often feel like a stranger in their own land and who believe the U.S. needs protecting against foreign influence were 3.5 times more likely to favor Trump than those who did not share these concerns."
https://www.prri.org/research/white-wor ... ald-trump/
Trump's history of racism, his obvious racist tinged statements, his anti immigrant statements, and his frequent 'dog whistle' racist remarks put him in the White House. That 'Christian' Evangelicals supported and continue to support him is an absolute condemnation of American 'Christianity.'
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Post #73JP Cusick wrote:Clownboat wrote:Once again, you are demonstrably wrong. It was not only about prisoners of war.JP Cusick wrote: It was about prisoners of war and so if they let go the other army then they would rearm and fight again, so the only two (2) options were slavery or death.
Numbers 31:18
Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.Doesn't matter. You were still shown to be wrong, whether or not virgin girls are an aspect of wars.Young girls are still an aspect of wars.
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I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb