Scientific Method is useless in religion and or philosophy. Isn't it? Please
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Scientific Method is useless in religion and or philosophy?
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Re: Scientific Method is useless in religion and or philosop
Post #2paarsurrey1 wrote: Scientific Method is useless in religion and or philosophy. Isn't it? Please
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Why do you think so?? Can you describe what you think is the scientific method, and tell why it's useless in religion or philosophy?
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�
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The scientific method is the best way available to us for determining the truth of an assertion. Religion claims to be about truth. Therefore …
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
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McCulloch wrote: The scientific method is the best way available to us for determining the truth of an assertion. Religion claims to be about truth. Therefore …
about the things physical and material only.The scientific method is the best way available to us for determining the truth of an assertion
Religion and philosophy are out of its domain.
It is designed and is limited for the things physical and material. It is not designed to find truth in Religion and or philosophy that cover the whole life with special reference to ethical, moral and spiritual issues/realms. Right, please?
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Religion and philosophy, to be true, must at least be consistent with the things known to science. When religion strays out of its domain and makes assertions about things physical and material, science is there as a fact check. If a religion says false things about the stuff we can check, why would we trust is in the areas we cannot?paarsurrey1 wrote:Religion and philosophy are out of its domain.
It is designed and is limited for the things physical and material. It is not designed to find truth in Religion and or philosophy that cover the whole life with special reference to ethical, moral and spiritual issues/realms. Right, please?
Morals and ethics can be looked at scientifically. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sci ... d_and_Evil
As to the spiritual realm, religion can retain it. I have no idea what it is, if it is or how you can know.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
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That depends on what one wishes to know about religion and philosophy. Science can verify the current efficacy of the practices in a controlled environment that follow from a philosophy. It can not verify the past, or things that do not occur in a controlled environment. Those things have to be done by historical or legal means. That is why archeology is a science and anthropology is a philosophy, psychiatry is a science and psychology is a philosophy, medical research is a science and medical practice is a philosophy, behavioral research is science and sociology is a philosophy, etc.
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To know God is the first basic pillar of the truthful religion. Does science have any discipline for God, please?McCulloch wrote:Religion and philosophy, to be true, must at least be consistent with the things known to science. When religion strays out of its domain and makes assertions about things physical and material, science is there as a fact check. If a religion says false things about the stuff we can check, why would we trust is in the areas we cannot?paarsurrey1 wrote:Religion and philosophy are out of its domain.
It is designed and is limited for the things physical and material. It is not designed to find truth in Religion and or philosophy that cover the whole life with special reference to ethical, moral and spiritual issues/realms. Right, please?
Morals and ethics can be looked at scientifically. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sci ... d_and_Evil
As to the spiritual realm, religion can retain it. I have no idea what it is, if it is or how you can know.
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And how exactly do you 'know God'? From a book? From what people tell you? From personal dreams/visions/etc.?paarsurrey1 wrote:To know God is the first basic pillar of the truthful religion. Does science have any discipline for God, please?McCulloch wrote:Religion and philosophy, to be true, must at least be consistent with the things known to science. When religion strays out of its domain and makes assertions about things physical and material, science is there as a fact check. If a religion says false things about the stuff we can check, why would we trust is in the areas we cannot?paarsurrey1 wrote:Religion and philosophy are out of its domain.
It is designed and is limited for the things physical and material. It is not designed to find truth in Religion and or philosophy that cover the whole life with special reference to ethical, moral and spiritual issues/realms. Right, please?
Morals and ethics can be looked at scientifically. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sci ... d_and_Evil
As to the spiritual realm, religion can retain it. I have no idea what it is, if it is or how you can know.
Regards
You need to define what it is you are looking for before science can be any help.
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Science produces no evidence concerning the existence of god ... come to think of it, neither does religion.paarsurrey1 wrote:To know God is the first basic pillar of the truthful religion. Does science have any discipline for God, please?McCulloch wrote:Religion and philosophy, to be true, must at least be consistent with the things known to science. When religion strays out of its domain and makes assertions about things physical and material, science is there as a fact check. If a religion says false things about the stuff we can check, why would we trust is in the areas we cannot?paarsurrey1 wrote:Religion and philosophy are out of its domain.
It is designed and is limited for the things physical and material. It is not designed to find truth in Religion and or philosophy that cover the whole life with special reference to ethical, moral and spiritual issues/realms. Right, please?
Morals and ethics can be looked at scientifically. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sci ... d_and_Evil
As to the spiritual realm, religion can retain it. I have no idea what it is, if it is or how you can know.
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Re: Scientific Method is useless in religion and or philosop
Post #10Scientific Method is not useless in philosophy: Scientific Method is in itself a philosophy, it used to go by a different and older name "natural philosophy."paarsurrey1 wrote: Scientific Method is useless in religion and or philosophy.
Scientific Method is not useless in religion: Theists regularly use it to determine which interpretation of the Bible (or other such holy text) to adopt.
