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So, where do you stand as to whether it is present, future, or has both a present and a future aspect?Luke 16:
6 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is being zealously urged into it.
TripleZ wrote:
Dan 2:44 "In the days of those kings the God of heaven will establish a kingdom that will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not pass into the hands of another people. It will break to pieces and consume all those kingdoms; but it, itself, will stand forever —
Dan 2:45 like the stone you saw, which, without human hands, separated itself from the mountain and broke to pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold. The great God has revealed to the king what will come about in the future. The dream is true, and its interpretation is reliable."
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Mat 5:3 "How blessed are the poor in spirit! for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.
Certainly, it will be my pleasure.TripleZ wrote:Can you explain this to us ?
It is located in heaven.TripleZ wrote: Where do you think Gods Kingdom actually IS located ?
TripleZ wrote:Mat 5:3 "How blessed are the poor in spirit! for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.
first show us how you arrive at your suppositions ?Checkpoint wrote: Some seem to think it is entirely future, while others give the impression they are always thinking of it as present, and to not be looking at the future in kingdom terms at all.
Jesus had much to say about the kingdom, including this:
So, where do you stand as to whether it is present, future, or has both a present and a future aspect?Luke 16:
6 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is being zealously urged into it.
On what basis?
According to which scriptures?
What suppositions?TripleZ wrote:first show us how you arrive at your suppositions ?Checkpoint wrote: Some seem to think it is entirely future, while others give the impression they are always thinking of it as present, and to not be looking at the future in kingdom terms at all.
Jesus had much to say about the kingdom, including this:
So, where do you stand as to whether it is present, future, or has both a present and a future aspect?Luke 16:
6 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is being zealously urged into it.
On what basis?
According to which scriptures?
BTW, the Kingdom of God is NOT a Democracy!!!
Gods Kingdom is ETERNAL..Checkpoint wrote: Some seem to think it is entirely future, while others give the impression they are always thinking of it as present, and to not be looking at the future in kingdom terms at all.
Jesus had much to say about the kingdom, including this:
So, where do you stand as to whether it is present, future, or has both a present and a future aspect?Luke 16:
6 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is being zealously urged into it.
On what basis?
According to which scriptures?
The kingdom of God, maybe.TripleZ wrote:Gods Kingdom is ETERNAL..Checkpoint wrote: Some seem to think it is entirely future, while others give the impression they are always thinking of it as present, and to not be looking at the future in kingdom terms at all.
Jesus had much to say about the kingdom, including this:
So, where do you stand as to whether it is present, future, or has both a present and a future aspect?Luke 16:
6 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is being zealously urged into it.
On what basis?
According to which scriptures?
Pe 1:11 Thus you will be generously supplied with everything you need to enter the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah.
Which of the three above do you think Jesus instructed his follower to pray for when he said "Our Father in the heavens, let your kingdom come"?Checkpoint wrote: The kingdom of God, maybe.
But the "kingdom of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah", while eternity future, is not eternity past.
The Messianic kingdom began when Jesus became its king.
This is not a matter of choosing from the words of men.JehovahsWitness wrote:Which of the three above do you think Jesus instructed his follower to pray for when he said "Our Father in the heavens, let your kingdom come"?Checkpoint wrote: The kingdom of God, maybe.
But the "kingdom of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah", while eternity future, is not eternity past.
The Messianic kingdom began when Jesus became its king.
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.'
You make the choice, as you think one is needed.Checkpoint wrote:This is not a matter of choosing from the words of men.JehovahsWitness wrote:Which of the three above do you think Jesus instructed his follower to pray for when he said "Our Father in the heavens, let your kingdom come"?Checkpoint wrote: The kingdom of God, maybe.
But the "kingdom of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah", while eternity future, is not eternity past.
The Messianic kingdom began when Jesus became its king.
For Jesus gave us the answer in that prayer.
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.'
JehovahsWitness wrote:Which of the three above do you think Jesus instructed his follower to pray for when he said "Our Father in the heavens, let your kingdom come"?Checkpoint wrote: The kingdom of God, maybe.
But the "kingdom of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah", while eternity future, is not eternity past.
The Messianic kingdom began when Jesus became its king.
ok fair enough.Checkpoint wrote:I think all three are valid answers.
But the "kingdom of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah", while eternity future, is not eternity past.
