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The kingdom of God.

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Some seem to think it is entirely future, while others give the impression they are always thinking of it as present, and to not be looking at the future in kingdom terms at all.

Jesus had much to say about the kingdom, including this:
Luke 16:

6 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is being zealously urged into it.
So, where do you stand as to whether it is present, future, or has both a present and a future aspect?

On what basis?

According to which scriptures?

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IaLoaou wrote: None of you have ever entered into the kingdom of God.

True or false?
The kingdom of God is inside you. It is like a mustard seed. Cultivate it.

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[Replying to post 599 by brianbbs67]

That is not what Bible teaches, at least not in a literal sense:

Dan. 2:44 “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever, 45 just as you saw that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and that it crushed the iron, the copper, the clay, the silver, and the gold. The Grand God has made known to the king what will happen in the future. The dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.�

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Eloi wrote: [Replying to post 599 by brianbbs67]

That is not what Bible teaches, at least not in a literal sense:

Dan. 2:44 “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever, 45 just as you saw that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and that it crushed the iron, the copper, the clay, the silver, and the gold. The Grand God has made known to the king what will happen in the future. The dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.�
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingd ... Within_You

Yes it does, Luke 17:21.

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Luc 17:21 has nothing to do with Dan.2:44.

Dan. 7:14 And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed.

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brianbbs67 wrote:
IaLoaou wrote: None of you have ever entered into the kingdom of God.

True or false?
The kingdom of God is inside you. It is like a mustard seed. Cultivate it.
John 3:3

“Jesus answered and said unto him,
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again
he cannot see the kingdom of God.�


How many times have you been born?

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Eloi wrote: Luc 17:21 has nothing to do with Dan.2:44.

Dan. 7:14 And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed.
Did you read Luke?

!6-17:Jesus' quote, "the kingdom of God does not come with observation;"nor will they say, 'See here' or 'See there'! The kingdom of God is within you."

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Did you read Dan.2:44 and 7:13? Aren't those passages talking about the Kingdom of God and its KING?

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Eloi wrote: Did you read Dan.2:44 and 7:13? Aren't those passages talking about the Kingdom of God and its KING?
Yes they are. How are you saying they contradict Luke? If that's what your saying?

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[Replying to post 606 by brianbbs67]

Who is talking about Dan.2:44 or Dan.7:13,14 contradicting Luke 17:21 but yourself?

The point is that your way of interpreting Luke contradicts the clear words of Daniel. Diferent statement, isn't it? This is what I say.

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Eloi wrote: [Replying to post 606 by brianbbs67]

Who is talking about Dan.2:44 or Dan.7:13,14 contradicting Luke 17:21 but yourself?

The point is that your way of interpreting Luke contradicts the clear words of Daniel. Diferent statement, isn't it? This is what I say.
Have you entered into the kingdom of God?

Yes or no?

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