The kingdom of God.

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Some seem to think it is entirely future, while others give the impression they are always thinking of it as present, and to not be looking at the future in kingdom terms at all.

Jesus had much to say about the kingdom, including this:

Luke 16:

6 The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone is being zealously urged into it.

So, where do you stand as to whether it is present, future, or has both a present and a future aspect?

On what basis?

According to which scriptures?

[myth-one.com]

It can't get simpler than that.

Yes it can:

Whosoever believeth in Jesus shall have everlasting life, and those who do not believe in Jesus will suffer the second death.

If you "believeth" in "Jesus", then you probably should "heed" his message (Mt 7:24-27), lest one be washed away in the "flood", the coming flood which will wash away the Gentile church (adulteress of Hosea 3), built on the two shepherds of Zechariah 11:10 & 17, Peter and Paul. You might want to read all of the text (John 3:15-21). And what is his "name" (John 3:18) per Revelation 19:13? John 11:25: "I am the resurrection, and the life; he who believes in me shall live even if he dies". To be resurrected one must first die, and according to the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13), Jeremiah 31:30, "everyone shall die for their own iniquities", which is to say, "everyone will die", which is contrary to the testimony of the false prophet Paul and the "serpent"/devil (Genesis 3:4) To be "resurrected", per Revelation 20:4, one must not have received the "mark" of the beast, which is prevalent among the "Gentile" churches, daughters of Babylon (Rev 17:5), who sits on the "beast" (which includes the Roman empire) (Rev 17:3). Everyone suffers the first death. Even Elijah, John the Baptist, eventually had his head cut off. The "second death" comes after the white throne judgment (Rev 20:15).

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;... (I Corinthians 15:49-50)

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (John 3:5-7)

Believers will be born again of the Spirit (God) as immortal spiritual bodied beings equal unto the angels into the Kingdom of God:

Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. (Luke 20:36)

If you believe in Jesus, you do not have to do anything else to gain everlasting life in the Kingdom of God..

[2ndpillar2]

It can't get simpler than that.

Yes it can:

Whosoever believeth in Jesus shall have everlasting life, and those who do not believe in Jesus will suffer the second death.

If you "believeth" in "Jesus", then you probably should "heed" his message (Mt 7:24-27), lest one be washed away in the "flood", the coming flood which will wash away the Gentile church (adulteress of Hosea 3), built on the two shepherds of Zechariah 11:10 & 17, Peter and Paul. You might want to read all of the text (John 3:15-21). And what is his "name" (John 3:18) per Revelation 19:13? John 11:25: "I am the resurrection, and the life; he who believes in me shall live even if he dies". To be resurrected one must first die, and according to the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13), Jeremiah 31:30, "everyone shall die for their own iniquities", which is to say, "everyone will die", which is contrary to the testimony of the false prophet Paul and the "serpent"/devil (Genesis 3:4) To be "resurrected", per Revelation 20:4, one must not have received the "mark" of the beast, which is prevalent among the "Gentile" churches, daughters of Babylon (Rev 17:5), who sits on the "beast" (which includes the Roman empire) (Rev 17:3). Everyone suffers the first death. Even Elijah, John the Baptist, eventually had his head cut off. The "second death" comes after the white throne judgment (Rev 20:15).

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;... (I Corinthians 15:49-50)

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (John 3:5-7)

Believers will be born again of the Spirit (God) as immortal spiritual bodied beings equal unto the angels into the Kingdom of God:

Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. (Luke 20:36)

If you believe in Jesus, you do not have to do anything else to gain everlasting life in the Kingdom of God..

Well, your grandparents probably "believeth in him", according to your understanding, and yet they died, and you will follow the same path (Jeremiah 31:30). If Yeshua is the "Word made flesh" and is called the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13), you might want to start believing the "Word of God", the Law and the prophets, and refrain from following false prophets such as Paul (Mt 7:13-15), and his writings, such as 1 Cor 15:49-50. Yeshua clearly laid out the "kingdom of heaven", such as in Mt 13:48-50 & Ezekiel 37, and it has everything to do with humans in the flesh, given a new heart and a new spirit. (Ezekiel 36:26-30). As for the false prophet Paul's supposed associate Luke, and his Luke 20:36 writing, he was referring to the first resurrection following the "day of the LORD", whereas those who died for the testimony of Yeshua, and did not have the mark of the beast (Rev 20:4), would not suffer a second death. As for John 3:5, the sign of one being "born of God", they must practice righteousness, and they are unable to sin (1 John 3:9). It is those born of the "devil" who sin, commit lawlessness, and that is all with regard to sin in the flesh, and righteousness in the flesh. As for the "kingdom of God", whereas David is ruler of the combined houses of Judah and Ephraim in the land given to Jacob (Ez 37), who also reigns over the nations/Gentiles, and will rule them with a rod of iron (Rev 19:15), and they will die generally over the age of 100 unless thought of as accursed (Is 65:20). I don't know, it seems the foundation of your belief system is one built on sand (Mt 7:24-27). They seem to be on a journey on the wide path to "destruction" (Mt 7:13) and a system/house/church meant to "fall". Unless one repents, in this case, of a lifetime of indoctrination, there doesn't seem any path forward. The "ruler" of the world is the liar/evil one/devil, who has used the beast with two horns like a lamb, Constantine, along with Peter and Paul (Zech 11), to "deceive" "those who dwell on the earth" (Rev 13:14).

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Well, your grandparents probably "believeth in him", according to your understanding, and yet they died, and you will follow the same path . . .

All of us will die our "first death":

And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (Hebrews 9:27)

So the first death is not the wages for our sins.

The wages for our sins is the "second death":

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:14-15)

[2ndpillar2]

Well, your grandparents probably "believeth in him", according to your understanding, and yet they died, and you will follow the same path . . .

All of us will die our "first death":

And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (Hebrews 9:27)

So the first death is not the wages for our sins.

The wages for our sins is the "second death":

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:14-15)

According to the false prophet Paul, "we shall not all sleep/die". Are you correct or is the false prophet Paul, correct? The "wages" of sin/iniquity is death (the first death) (Jeremiah 31:30). As for the white throne judgment, that is for those who rise from the dead at the end of the Millenium. It does not include those who rose in the first resurrection, and only applies to those in the grave. As for the unknown author who wrote Hebrews, he seems to be in line with the false prophet Paul, and as far as those thrown into the "lake of fire", that would be their second death, which means they will die twice (Rev 20:14-15), for they are without everlasting life. John 3:15: "that whoever believes may in him have eternal life". The "him" would refer to him who is referred to as the "Word of God" (Rev 19:15). Unless one believes the message of the "Word", how is one to heed that word (Mt 7:24-27)?

[myth-one.com]

According to the false prophet Paul, "we shall not all sleep/die". Are you correct or is the false prophet Paul, correct?

We are both correct.

The "wages" of sin/iniquity is death (the first death) (Jeremiah 31:30).

No, we will all be awakened from our "first death".

As for the white throne judgment, that is for those who rise from the dead at the end of the Millenium. It does not include those who rose in the first resurrection, and only applies to those in the grave.

All nonbelievers will face judgment, most of them will be resurrected from the grave. Some may be alive at the start of the judgment. Anyways, all nonbelievers will face the judgment.

As for the unknown author who wrote Hebrews, he seems to be in line with the false prophet Paul, and as far as those thrown into the "lake of fire", that would be their second death, which means they will die twice (Rev 20:14-15), for they are without everlasting life. John 3:15: "that whoever believes may in him have eternal life".

It depends on one's point of view. From your point of view, it is the second death of those resurrected nonbelievers whose name is not written in the Book of Life following judgment.

But from God's point of view and from the point of view of those who have read and understood the Bible, there is only one true death -- the second death -- as all will be resurrected from their first death.

Death: the act of dying; the end of life; the total and permanent cessation of all the vital functions of an animal or plant.

Since all who suffer their first death will live again, the first death is not really a death at all -- as it is not permanent. Thus, the first death is often described as sleep, slumber, or rest in the Bible. All deceased humans will be resurrected -- some to everlasting life. Those resurrected as humans will face judgment and possibly suffer their "second" and permanent death from their point of view. It will actually be their only permanent and true death.

The Apostle Paul explained this in great detail. I suggest that you read what God inspired Paul to write.

[2ndpillar2]

According to the false prophet Paul, "we shall not all sleep/die". Are you correct or is the false prophet Paul, correct?

We are both correct.

The "wages" of sin/iniquity is death (the first death) (Jeremiah 31:30).

No, we will all be awakened from our "first death".

As for the white throne judgment, that is for those who rise from the dead at the end of the Millenium. It does not include those who rose in the first resurrection, and only applies to those in the grave.

All nonbelievers will face judgment, most of them will be resurrected from the grave. Some may be alive at the start of the judgment. Anyways, all nonbelievers will face the judgment.

As for the unknown author who wrote Hebrews, he seems to be in line with the false prophet Paul, and as far as those thrown into the "lake of fire", that would be their second death, which means they will die twice (Rev 20:14-15), for they are without everlasting life. John 3:15: "that whoever believes may in him have eternal life".

It depends on one's point of view. From your point of view, it is the second death of those resurrected nonbelievers whose name is not written in the Book of Life following judgment.

But from God's point of view and from the point of view of those who have read and understood the Bible, there is only one true death -- the second death -- as all will be resurrected from their first death.

Death: the act of dying; the end of life; the total and permanent cessation of all the vital functions of an animal or plant.

Since all who suffer their first death will live again, the first death is not really a death at all -- as it is not permanent. Thus, the first death is often described as sleep, slumber, or rest in the Bible. All deceased humans will be resurrected -- some to everlasting life. Those resurrected as humans will face judgment and possibly suffer their "second" and permanent death from their point of view. It will actually be their only permanent and true death.

The Apostle Paul explained this in great detail. I suggest that you read what God inspired Paul to write.

Being born of the "devil" (1 John 3:8), the self-described "foremost sinner", the apostle Paul, said it was not him who sinned, but the devil within him (Romans 7:18-20). As for the millennium, the period of the "kingdom of heaven", whereas David is made king and rules from Jerusalem (Zech 14:16 & Ez 37:23-25), which starts after the "day of the LORD" (Joel 2:31-32), the judgment of God starts with the "wicked" (Mt 13:49-50), the tares, the product of the message of the "devil"/"evil one" (Mt 13:38), those who "commit lawlessness" (Mt 13:41-42). The lawlessness of the Gentile church, the adulteress of Hosea 3, who was bought for the equivalence of 30 shekels of silver (Zech 11:16-17 & Hosea 3:2) is built on Paul's false gospel of grace/cross/lawlessness. Paul and his followers thought they would not die and be buried. As for death, only the body is destroyed, the Spirit is returned to God from whence it came. When Paul and his contemporary listeners died, their bodies became dust, and their breath of life (Gen 2:7) returned to God. Their death and plagues were generally a result of their sins, and when Yeshua forgave the sins of the sick he cured, he simply said your sins are forgiven and they became well. Are your sins forgiven at this time, and are you going to skirt death? I think not. As for resurrection, it would be in one's best interest to be resurrected at the initial point of the millennium, whereas they will reign with Christ for 1000 years (Rev 20:4). Also, they will not die a 2nd death, and not be a part of the 2nd resurrection, and as part of "everyone shall die for their iniquities", they will not "die" per your "permanent death". The righteous of Rev 20:4 will only have one death in their life, which was in consequence to their iniquities/sin (Jer 31:30).

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Are your sins forgiven at this time, and are you going to skirt death? I think not.

Well, you're wrong. All of us have sinned. And sinners who believeth in Jesus as their Savior shall have everlasting life. That is not to say that we will avoid our first "death" or rest.

Sinners can skirt our second death, not our first.

Being without sin is no longer a requirement in avoiding the second death. Uunder the New Testament Covenant, we are under the grace of Jesus Christ for our salvation, not our works to fulfill the law. So sin does not control our salvation:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Note that Paul (as inspired by God) wrote the book of Romans.

You need to get over that jealousy thing you have going with Paul. Jesus said the same thing as Paul:

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Whosoever believeth shall be saved -- not whosoever is without sin. Do you believe Jesus?

As for resurrection, it would be in one's best interest to be resurrected at the initial point of the millennium, whereas they will reign with Christ for 1000 years (Rev 20:4). Also, they will not die a 2nd death, and not be a part of the 2nd resurrection, and as part of "everyone shall die for their iniquities", they will not "die" per your "permanent death". The righteous of Rev 20:4 will only have one death in their life, which was in consequence to their iniquities/sin (Jer 31:30).

God sets who is resurrected and when. All deceased believers are resurrected at the Second Coming, and all nonbelievers are resurrected a thousand years later.

Once again, that's from Paul.

What do you believe saves anyone from the second death?

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Are your sins forgiven at this time, and are you going to skirt death? I think not.

Well, you're wrong. All of us have sinned. And sinners who believeth in Jesus as their Savior shall have everlasting life. That is not to say that we will avoid our first "death" or rest.

Sinners can skirt our second death, not our first.

Being without sin is no longer a requirement in avoiding the second death. Uunder the New Testament Covenant, we are under the grace of Jesus Christ for our salvation, not our works to fulfill the law. So sin does not control our salvation:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Note that Paul (as inspired by God) wrote the book of Romans.

You need to get over that jealousy thing you have going with Paul. Jesus said the same thing as Paul:

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Whosoever believeth shall be saved -- not whosoever is without sin. Do you believe Jesus?

As for resurrection, it would be in one's best interest to be resurrected at the initial point of the millennium, whereas they will reign with Christ for 1000 years (Rev 20:4). Also, they will not die a 2nd death, and not be a part of the 2nd resurrection, and as part of "everyone shall die for their iniquities", they will not "die" per your "permanent death". The righteous of Rev 20:4 will only have one death in their life, which was in consequence to their iniquities/sin (Jer 31:30).

God sets who is resurrected and when. All deceased believers are resurrected at the Second Coming, and all nonbelievers are resurrected a thousand years later.

Once again, that's from Paul.

What do you believe saves anyone from the second death?

Muslims believe in "Isa"/Yeshua, or in their words, Isa, the son of Mary. Are they saved and get 72 virgins for believing their Quran, and killing Kafirs/non-muslims, supposedly espoused by their false prophet's pronouncements? The only thing that will save one from the "lake of fire", is to be written in the book of life, which apparently the "elect" have been there from the "beginning" (foundation of the world) (Rev 17:8). It is these who will not be deluded by the beast and receive his mark. Those with the mark of the beast will not be in the first resurrection (Rev 20:4). According to Rev 21:27 no liar, or those who do abominations shall enter into Jerusalem, which is the epi center of the kingdom, from which king David rules (Zech 14 & Ez 37) the combined Judah and Ephraim, as well as those of the nations which survive ((Rev 19:15 & Ez 37). The only men with a reserved ticket for the "lake of fire" are apparently the "beast" and the "false prophet". (Rev 20:10). As for Romans being "inspired by God", well, that is according to Paul, and according to Yeshua, any self-witnessing is "not true" (John 5:31).

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Muslims believe in "Isa"/Yeshua, or in their words, Isa, the son of Mary. Are they saved . . .

Believing that Jesus Christ existed as a man is not the same as believing in Jesus Christ as one's Savior from the wages of their sins.

The only men with a reserved ticket for the "lake of fire" are apparently the "beast" and the "false prophet". (Rev 20:10).

You're omitting the largest group with a reserved ticket -- those whose names are not written in tghe Book of Life:

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15)

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Muslims believe in "Isa"/Yeshua, or in their words, Isa, the son of Mary. Are they saved . . .

Believing that Jesus Christ existed as a man is not the same as believing in Jesus Christ as one's Savior from the wages of their sins.

The only men with a reserved ticket for the "lake of fire" are apparently the "beast" and the "false prophet". (Rev 20:10).

You're omitting the largest group with a reserved ticket -- those whose names are not written in tghe Book of Life:

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15)

The names written in the "book of Life" were written there from the foundation of the world (Rev 17:8), not a come to "Jesus" moment.

As for "believing Jesus Christ as one's Savior" saving one from the wages of sin, is a nonstarter, for the mark of sin, is disease & death, and I am supposing you have your plagues (sicknesses) of the nations, as well as you are on the road to death. Your definition of "death" (permanent death) is wrong, as the righteous of Rev 20:4 all sinned yet will never face your defined "death" which is the judgment for sin (Jeremiah 31:30), which they all committed in order for them to die in the first place. As for Jesus Christ being the savior, well that is not quite right. "Jesus" (Yeshua) means YHWH (LORD) saves, and Christ means anointed one, which would refer to those anointed by the LORD, such as kings, prophets, priests, and judges. Yeshua came during the period of the star of David, to the town of David, and was for the fulfilling of the prophets such as Ez 34 & 37, whereas David is made king and shepherd, whereas in Ezekiel 34, all the preceding "fat shepherds" are "destroyed" (Ez 34:16). It is not until after the LORD God judges between the sheep (Ezekiel 34:20) that he puts David in charge. The difference between the false prophet and those thrown into the "lake of fire", is that the "false prophet", apparently will continue in "torment" forever and ever. (Rev 20:10), whereas the others are without everlasting life, and will be no more. Apparently, those who are "saved", such as written in the book of life, are determined from the foundation of the world, and lest one is scratched out of that book, they most probably won't be deceived by your false prophet and beast. (Matthew 24:14) On the other hand, the "beast with two horns like a lamb", Constantine along with Peter and Paul, will "deceive those who dwell on the earth" (Revelation 13:14) which probably includes around 2 billion "Christians", included among the "many" of Matthew 7:13-15).