Is Jesus in the Law and the Prophets?

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Is Jesus in the Law and the Prophets?

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A few say he isn't there, but most say he is, including Jesus himself after his resurrection...
Luke 24:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?�

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
So, which scriptures do you think he included, and why those ones?

I wonder [do you?] how he explained them.

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Re: Is Jesus in the Law and the Prophets?

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Checkpoint wrote: A few say he isn't there, but most say he is, including Jesus himself after his resurrection...
Luke 24:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?�

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
So, which scriptures do you think he included, and why those ones?

I wonder [do you?] how he explained them.
Good questions. It is said from Moses and all the Prophets. That's almost all the books of the OT.
Jews were custodians of the Scripture they would have known what they say but did not understand them. If they did Jesus would not have had to explain it to them and they would have recognized their Messiah.
If they did not understand their Scripture we certainly can do no better unless it is obvious and fits in with the NT.

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Re: Is Jesus in the Law and the Prophets?

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Checkpoint wrote: A few say he isn't there, but most say he is, including Jesus himself after his resurrection...
Luke 24:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?�

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
So, which scriptures do you think he included, and why those ones?

I wonder [do you?] how he explained them.
If Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets as the title of the OP implies, and Jesus said the Golden Rule is the Law and the Prophets, does that mean then that Jesus is the Golden Rule?

Does that make any logical sense.....at all?
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-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

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Re: Is Jesus in the Law and the Prophets?

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"If Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets as the title of the OP implies, and Jesus said the Golden Rule is the Law and the Prophets, does that mean then that Jesus is the Golden Rule?

Does that make any logical sense.....at all?"

"The Word became flesh"
And God spoke - words.
Whatever God speaks is Divine Wisdom in itself.
So yes, Jesus is the Golden Rule also.

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Elijah John wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: A few say he isn't there, but most say he is, including Jesus himself after his resurrection...
Luke 24:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?�

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
So, which scriptures do you think he included, and why those ones?

I wonder [do you?] how he explained them.
If Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets as the title of the OP implies, and Jesus said the Golden Rule is the Law and the Prophets, does that mean then that Jesus is the Golden Rule?

Does that make any logical sense.....at all?
No, it doesn't make any sense at all.

Guess why.

The title of the OP does not say "Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets"!

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Elijah John wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: A few say he isn't there, but most say he is, including Jesus himself after his resurrection...
Luke 24:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?�

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
So, which scriptures do you think he included, and why those ones?

I wonder [do you?] how he explained them.
If Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets as the title of the OP implies, and Jesus said the Golden Rule is the Law and the Prophets, does that mean then that Jesus is the Golden Rule?
The title of the OP implies no such thing.

Its meaning is spelled out in its scripture quote.
Does that make any logical sense.....at all?
What makes logical sense is Jesus assessment of himself as their Messiah as prophesied, and citing and explaining what scriptures he had fulfilled, and how.

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Checkpoint wrote:
Elijah John wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: A few say he isn't there, but most say he is, including Jesus himself after his resurrection...
Luke 24:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?�

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
So, which scriptures do you think he included, and why those ones?

I wonder [do you?] how he explained them.
If Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets as the title of the OP implies, and Jesus said the Golden Rule is the Law and the Prophets, does that mean then that Jesus is the Golden Rule?
The title of the OP implies no such thing.
You're right, sorry. I missed the word "in". As the youngsters say, "my bad". ;)
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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Re: Is Jesus in the Law and the Prophets?

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[Replying to post 7 by Elijah John]
ou're right, sorry. I missed the word "in". As the youngsters say, "my bad".
As you know, I had to make a similar concession the other day.

It seems we can both have such moments occasionally.

We must have joined the human race....

;)

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[Replying to post 7 by Elijah John]


Quote:
If Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets as the title of the OP implies, and Jesus said the Golden Rule is the Law and the Prophets, does that mean then that Jesus is the Golden Rule?"

Jesus said that his words are truth and they are life
therefore any instruction from Him incl. the
Golden Rule is from himself and is Himself.

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Re: Is Jesus in the Law and the Prophets?

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Elijah John wrote:
Checkpoint wrote:
Elijah John wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: A few say he isn't there, but most say he is, including Jesus himself after his resurrection...
Luke 24:

25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?�

27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
So, which scriptures do you think he included, and why those ones?

I wonder [do you?] how he explained them.
If Jesus IS the Law and the Prophets as the title of the OP implies, and Jesus said the Golden Rule is the Law and the Prophets, does that mean then that Jesus is the Golden Rule?
The title of the OP implies no such thing.
You're right, sorry. I missed the word "in". As the youngsters say, "my bad". ;)
The point is, EJ, you seem to be someone who says Jesus is not in the Law and the Prophets.

Or have I misunderstood your position on that?

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