Jesus did not declare Paul a trust-worthy person. Did he?

[paarsurrey1]

Jesus did not declare Paul a trust-worthy person. Did he, please?
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[Checkpoint]

Jesus did not declare Paul a trust-worthy person. Did he, please?
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He didn't declare him trustworthy or untrustworthy.

However, he did say this:

Acts 9:

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man [Paul] is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.�

[Elijah John]

Jesus did not declare Paul a trust-worthy person. Did he, please?
Regards

He didn't declare him trustworthy or untrustworthy.

However, he did say this:

Acts 9:

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man [Paul] is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.�

That is completely a matter of faith. Something uttered by the "risen Christ" in a vision, and not by the flesh and blood (whom Paul never met) historical, "pre-Easter" Jesus.

[Checkpoint]

Jesus did not declare Paul a trust-worthy person. Did he, please?
Regards

He didn't declare him trustworthy or untrustworthy.

However, he did say this:

Acts 9:

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man [Paul] is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.�

That is completely a matter of faith. Something uttered by the "risen Christ" in a vision, and not by the flesh and blood (whom Paul never met) historical, "pre-Easter" Jesus.

That's what believers do, walk by faith, not by sight.

Visions are a part of that, and an integral part of scripture and of how God sometimes chooses to speak.

Numbers 12:6

He said, "Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, YHVH, shall make Myself known to him in a vision. I shall speak with him in a dream".

[Wootah]

Come on EJ - what else apart from the Bible do you want checkpoint to use....

Jesus never said anything about nearly all his followers so does that mean anything at all?

Oh I can't trust X Jesus didn't say they are trustworthy .... the question is asinine.

[JehovahsWitness]

Jesus did not declare Paul a trust-worthy person. Did he, please?
Regards

He didn't declare him trustworthy or untrustworthy.

However, he did say this:

Acts 9:

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man [Paul] is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.�

Do you think we can discern anything to do with Jesus attitude toward Paul from those words?

[Elijah John]

Come on EJ - what else apart from the Bible do you want checkpoint to use....

Jesus never said anything about nearly all his followers so does that mean anything at all?

Oh I can't trust X Jesus didn't say they are trustworthy .... the question is asinine.

Never said here that Paul wasn't trustworthy, just sayin' it's a matter of faith. Not something the historical Jesus ever said. Anything "post Easter" is a matter of faith. I think some apologists err when they give historical weight to anything the "risen Christ" is said to have said and equate those things to what the historical, flesh and blood Jesus is likely to have said.

[Checkpoint]

Come on EJ - what else apart from the Bible do you want checkpoint to use....

Jesus never said anything about nearly all his followers so does that mean anything at all?

Oh I can't trust X Jesus didn't say they are trustworthy .... the question is asinine.

Never said here that Paul wasn't trustworthy, just sayin' it's a matter of faith. Not something the historical Jesus ever said. Anything "post Easter" is a matter of faith. I think some apologists err when they give historical weight to anything the "risen Christ" is said to have said and equate those things to what the historical, flesh and blood Jesus is likely to have said.

It's all "a matter of faith", EJ.

"Post-Easter" and before that, including the Tanakh, including the prophets.

[Elijah John]

Come on EJ - what else apart from the Bible do you want checkpoint to use....

Jesus never said anything about nearly all his followers so does that mean anything at all?

Oh I can't trust X Jesus didn't say they are trustworthy .... the question is asinine.

Never said here that Paul wasn't trustworthy, just sayin' it's a matter of faith. Not something the historical Jesus ever said. Anything "post Easter" is a matter of faith. I think some apologists err when they give historical weight to anything the "risen Christ" is said to have said and equate those things to what the historical, flesh and blood Jesus is likely to have said.

It's all "a matter of faith", EJ.

"Post-Easter" and before that, including the Tanakh, including the prophets.

Some things in the Bible are more a matter of faith alone than others, and need to be taken that way.

Other things, (like the pre Easter stuff) have a more rational basis, such as the ethic of reciprocity, the Golden Rule the Ten Commandments, etc.

HJ scholars rely more on the pre-Easter accounts when seeking to uncover the real, historic Jesus. The post-Easter stuff is really "only" the "Christ of Faith". Beyond reason, not necessarily untrue, but simply unverifiable as likely by historical, archeological and academic methods.

The things that are matters of faith alone should not be imposed on others, and it should never be assumed that people with different religious beliefs are not also with God simply because they differ with orthodoxy, or with one's opinion.

General statement, not necessarily directed at you.

[paarsurrey1]

Jesus did not declare Paul a trust-worthy person. Did he, please?
Regards

He didn't declare him trustworthy or untrustworthy.

However, he did say this:

Acts 9:

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man [Paul] is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.�

Acts 9:

15 But the Lord said to Ananias

, “Go! This man [Paul] is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.�[/quote]

This is again not told by Jesus but reported by Paul, not even written, reported and confirmed by Ananias. Right, please?
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