Jesus was one of a long line of Hebrew prophets who spoke in one refrain to priests temple aristocracy and kings . let justice prevail in the land destroy the nighty and wicked mes so that the strong might not afflict the weak. Like all the prophets before him he did not glorify the king but showed the wrongful confusion on earth for the betterment of mankind.
When reading through the Hebrew prophets there is found a consistency of spirit through the ages of concern for the common man being treated fairly by the powerful.
Its disappointing form me a Christian that Jesus is not recognized for the Hebrew prophet he was in the troubled time which he lived. When Jesus said before Abraham was I am he was not claiming to be a pagan god , he was saying what they all said the eternal God said thus .
Priests and temple flunkies and kings were always the target of the prophets. That they should know the law is not made by man but by God. There are certain unalienable truths. Not congressed by man but from God.
Jesus was one of a long line of Hebrew prophets.
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Post #31
You are saying things which are not in New Testament.paarsurrey1 wrote:I don't get one exactly. Please elaborate.Monta wrote: [Replying to post 27 by paarsurrey1]
Yes, Paul's started a new religion and named it after Christ* to take a revenge from him to trick his followers. Paul wanted to kill Jesus but when Jesus went out of Judea and out of the Roman Empire he thought of a new plan to undo Jesus character and Jesus' teachings."
Great imagination out of place here imo.
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Please read it and give quotes to explain what you wanted to say.
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Post #32
[Replying to post 31 by Monta]
Paul lead the group that hunted, persecuted and killed Christians. St Stephen was their first victim.
Acts 7:57-59
57 And casting him out the city, they stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man, whose name was Saul.
58 And they stoned Stephen, invoking and saying; Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
59 And falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, saying; Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep in the Lord.
OOOOOO
And Saul was consenting to his death.
OOOOOO
Acts 8:1-3
1 Now Saul was consenting to his execution.On that day, there broke out a severe persecution of the church in Jerusalem, and all were scattered throughout the countryside of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.
2 Devout men buried Stephen and made a loud lament over him.
3 Saul, meanwhile, was trying to destroy the church; entering house after house and dragging out men and women, he handed them over for imprisonment.
OOOOOO
It is a strong clue that Paul who never met Jesus who persecuted Christians was an enemy of Jesus and his followers. Right, please?
Regards
The gist of the things are in Quran, supported from the clues in NT Bible.You are saying things which are not in New Testament.
Paul lead the group that hunted, persecuted and killed Christians. St Stephen was their first victim.
Acts 7:57-59
57 And casting him out the city, they stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man, whose name was Saul.
58 And they stoned Stephen, invoking and saying; Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
59 And falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, saying; Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep in the Lord.
OOOOOO
And Saul was consenting to his death.
OOOOOO
Acts 8:1-3
1 Now Saul was consenting to his execution.On that day, there broke out a severe persecution of the church in Jerusalem, and all were scattered throughout the countryside of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.
2 Devout men buried Stephen and made a loud lament over him.
3 Saul, meanwhile, was trying to destroy the church; entering house after house and dragging out men and women, he handed them over for imprisonment.
OOOOOO
It is a strong clue that Paul who never met Jesus who persecuted Christians was an enemy of Jesus and his followers. Right, please?
Regards
Post #33
[Replying to post 32 by paarsurrey1]
"1 Now Saul was consenting to his execution.On that day, there broke out a severe persecution of the church in Jerusalem, and all were scattered throughout the countryside of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. "
Where does it say that Saul consented to Stephen's execution?
"1 Now Saul was consenting to his execution.On that day, there broke out a severe persecution of the church in Jerusalem, and all were scattered throughout the countryside of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. "
Where does it say that Saul consented to Stephen's execution?
Post #34
" yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul." ( Acts 7: 57 )Monta wrote: [Replying to post 32 by paarsurrey1]
"1 Now Saul was consenting to his execution.On that day, there broke out a severe persecution of the church in Jerusalem, and all were scattered throughout the countryside of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. "
Where does it say that Saul consented to Stephen's execution?
what does it mean by saying they laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul?
Post #35
[Replying to post 34 by dio9]
" yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul." ( Acts 7: 57 )
what does it mean by saying they laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul?//
I meant to ask the same question.
" yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul." ( Acts 7: 57 )
what does it mean by saying they laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul?//
I meant to ask the same question.
