Being religious or being "wart"-religious - The Ch

[Aetixintro]

Lately and with greater insight over a long period of time, the choice seems simple - being religious or being or becoming "wart"-religious. By "wart"-religious, I mean what happens when one (consistently) becomes immoral as a human being, one shoots off the humanity in one's self.

I agree that it is difficult to be religious at times as one is still exposed to bad people or even unscrupulous people.

As we Christians should know, the choice is between God and Heaven and Satan and Hell. However, it is unclear what qualifies to this in exact terms. Is it "so much sins" or "so much sins"? But what you can notice is that these bad people like to develop warts/papilloma both on the skin and inside the body, also in the brain. (See description of cancer like warts/papillomas.) They shed their humanity through and through by bad/vicious actions against others, preferably against good people (mostly religious). I think, therefore, that these people are "labeled" with warts/papillomas because the nervous system that also includes the brain is in its best state when the human is good and moral, also most intelligent. I.e., that I think the future will show that immoral people are those who have a bad nervous system full of warts/papilloma and that these warts/papillomas become a religion for them. They are doomed to cultivate their warts/papilloma as religion and that this is a spiral stair to Hell and a final state without humanity. They become monsters and enemies of humanity/the good people.

Again, I encourage you, the choice is easy! There is a choice between religion (eg. our/common Christianity or other "whitelist"-religion) or "wart"-religion and monsters in humanity.

Good day!

(You may want to search online for "wart(s)", "papilloma", "devil's mark" or "devil's taint." I have also written something about "wart(s)".)

Originally published in Norwegian at "www.verdidebatt.no" titled "Valget er enkelt - Å være religiøs eller å være "vorte"-religiøs", Oct 6, 2017.

[Justin108]

But what you can notice is that these bad people like to develop warts/papilloma both on the skin and inside the body, also in the brain. (See description of cancer like warts/papillomas.) They shed their humanity through and through by bad/vicious actions against others, preferably against good people (mostly religious). I think, therefore, that these people are "labeled" with warts/papillomas because the nervous system that also includes the brain is in its best state when the human is good and moral, also most intelligent. I.e., that I think the future will show that immoral people are those who have a bad nervous system full of warts/papilloma and that these warts/papillomas become a religion for them.

Wait... are you saying that bad people are more likely to develop physical, literal warts? Or are you speaking metaphorically here?

[Aetixintro]

But what you can notice is that these bad people like to develop warts/papilloma both on the skin and inside the body, also in the brain. (See description of cancer like warts/papillomas.) They shed their humanity through and through by bad/vicious actions against others, preferably against good people (mostly religious). I think, therefore, that these people are "labeled" with warts/papillomas because the nervous system that also includes the brain is in its best state when the human is good and moral, also most intelligent. I.e., that I think the future will show that immoral people are those who have a bad nervous system full of warts/papilloma and that these warts/papillomas become a religion for them.

Wait... are you saying that bad people are more likely to develop physical, literal warts? Or are you speaking metaphorically here?

Yes, I'm saying that bad people are more likely to develop physical, literal warts (black/brown/red/white) in connection with their nervous system. You should know there are several types of warts, some of which are harmless.

It seems to me that all of the nervous system is affected by morality with a starting point where full health/full morality is the body without these "taints", triggers to the nervous system. So it can represent a new turn for religious people to stay away from a warty life and that these morally depraved people become these people with a wart/warts in the center of their lives. Only a claim for now, though.

[Justin108]

But what you can notice is that these bad people like to develop warts/papilloma both on the skin and inside the body, also in the brain. (See description of cancer like warts/papillomas.) They shed their humanity through and through by bad/vicious actions against others, preferably against good people (mostly religious). I think, therefore, that these people are "labeled" with warts/papillomas because the nervous system that also includes the brain is in its best state when the human is good and moral, also most intelligent. I.e., that I think the future will show that immoral people are those who have a bad nervous system full of warts/papilloma and that these warts/papillomas become a religion for them.

Wait... are you saying that bad people are more likely to develop physical, literal warts? Or are you speaking metaphorically here?

Yes, I'm saying that bad people are more likely to develop physical, literal warts (black/brown/red/white) in connection with their nervous system. You should know there are several types of warts, some of which are harmless.

It seems to me that all of the nervous system is affected by morality with a starting point where full health/full morality is the body without these "taints", triggers to the nervous system. So it can represent a new turn for religious people to stay away from a warty life and that these morally depraved people become these people with a wart/warts in the center of their lives. Only a claim for now, though.

Ok then... I'm guessing this post will be moved to random rambling soon.

[marco]

Yes, I'm saying that bad people are more likely to develop physical, literal warts (black/brown/red/white) in connection with their nervous system. You should know there are several types of warts, some of which are harmless.

Just a reminder that we have reached the 21st century, somehow. In 1727 Janet Horne and her daughter were arrested in Dornoch, Scotland and imprisoned on the accusations of her neighbours. Horne was senile and her daughter had a deformity of her hands and feet. Suspicious! The neighbours accused Horne of having used her daughter as a pony to ride to the Devil, where she had her shod by him. At their trial the sheriff judged both guilty and sentenced them to be burned at the stake. The old lady had a mark on her body which was all the proof needed to show she was a witch. The daughter escaped and the old lady was tarred, feathered and burned alive. She was the last witch to be burned here.

Once upon a time, people believed this nonsense and innocent people died as a consequence.

[Aetixintro]

[Replying to post 5 by marco]

Given all other strange efforts in 2017 and that no person is persecuted on grounds of warts, I don't see why people shouldn't have the information to be able to pursue investigation to what mentality these warts entail.

If it turns out to be true that cancer/warts are caused by (very) immoral thoughts/actions shouldn't the public know about it? Isn't it unscientific to shove such things under the rug on grounds of "politeness"?

I feel it's unfair to compare this effort to some (idiot/superstitious) instance of 1727 CE.

It's even more unfair if it turns out that people's mentality actually turns out to revolve around these things, the warts, something we can use fMRI/MRI/plain sight to investigate in 2017.

To be clear then, this is not the suggestion for some kind of 21st century inquisition!

[Neatras]

To be clear then, this is not the suggestion for some kind of 21st century inquisition!

In short, you have a predisposition for believing that facial blemishes are related to moral/immoral actions. You acknowledge that forming an experimental investigation into the "causal relationship between immoral behavior and warts" is better than simply asserting that warts are caused by immorality. What you haven't done is propose any kind of experiment that carries with it any objectivity. What you're doing is throwing out casual assertions and saying, "Well, we can always investigate if we really want to, but until then it's not really conclusive~. Therefore I'm not necessarily wrong, and can keep believing my poorly justified presupposition."

Harsh, I know, to represent you in such a manner. But this is the kind of behavior that springs up around cults and superstitions throughout history. You've gone the exact opposite route to the "18th century inquisitions." Now you rely on the sciences not scrutinizing a minute and completely unjustified claim of yours, using the lack of scientific study as a means of bolstering your narrative. But you've made a positive claim, meaning it's up to you to actually do something about the hypothesis. Simply thinking, "Well, it's a hypothesis until science gets into it, so I'm alright in believing this unjustified positive assertion," is harmful. It's not enough to throw out unjustified assertions and wait around until someone does your work for you. All ideas must be scrutinized. You've built no causal relationship between warts and immoral behavior. You've made no attempt to justify your position as anything other than, "Well it could be true, and if so we should try and learn about it!" You also ignore or are unaware of all the evidence to the contrary, wherein we learn that warts are the symptoms of infectious disease, a very well understood phenomenon wherein physical causes result in skin blemishes with no evidence of relationships between infection rates and the morality of behavior. The only behavior that would have any relevance under this model is how well the potential infection candidate avoids or fends off the infectious material.

I leave it up to you to propose a model that works better than the current one. Because you clearly haven't yet.

[Aetixintro]

[Replying to post 7 by Neatras]

It has been my words, before the science, that have allowed us to smell the atmosphere of Mars without a person even setting foot there involving the sending of neurologically "compatible" signals straight from the planet's surface and then use a device to apply these signals to for example the skin of your nose-bone, no neural implants necessary.

You seem to demand that "I run before I can walk" and want to deny me the discussion of (possibly important) ideas. You make the unscientific claim that warts, the ones I discuss, the cancerous ones, arise from mere infection. This is not true. They are connected to the nervous system for reasons I'd like to investigate.

I see that Wikipedia is describing cancer apart from warts so if I just like to say that when I write "warts" I mean the "stuff" that has connections to the nervous system and that trigger (immoral) thoughts or dark feelings in the brain when they are touched, also by the mere contact of blood.
For now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_pap ... _infection.

Not in plain science yet, immoral people can be revealed by bio-electrical-value-readers straight from the skin although the results can be manipulated by use of cocaine (other as well?).

I find it important to make religious people more stalwart and faithful in their beliefs and in making the young people and Agnostics find religion attractive, also in intellectual respects.

There is an important difference in making mere science reports and submitting interesting ideas that may have positive impact in the World. Political correctness isn't a virtue and it's not a virtue either to write allegedly popular science that do not draw criticism.

I believe in my ideas until they may/might be disproven and to discuss them above the corruption in the World.

I write this (and the above) in full sincerity and that I am my brother's keeper!

Let's see who gets proven right!

Note: Ideas do come before the scientific evidence and it's part of science to make a scientific "program" (Imre Lakatos) in competition with other ideas to see who finally provides scientific description of worth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imre_Lakatos

[marco]

I feel it's unfair to compare this effort to some (idiot/superstitious) instance of 1727 CE.

Not really when the reasoning is the same. Body mark equates with badness.

It's even more unfair if it turns out that people's mentality actually turns out to revolve around these things, the warts, something we can use fMRI/MRI/plain sight to investigate in 2017.

You mean if ever your theory is proved correct then it will have been unfair to ridicule it. That's true. There can be connections between one's mental health and one's physical state but suggesting that sin manifests itself in some mark on the body is a concept that belongs to a superstitious past not to a well-informed future.

Oscar Wilde wrote an interesting novel roughly along these lines: Picture of Dorian Gray, but of course it was fictitious.

[Aetixintro]

I feel it's unfair to compare this effort to some (idiot/superstitious) instance of 1727 CE.

Not really when the reasoning is the same. Body mark equates with badness.

It's even more unfair if it turns out that people's mentality actually turns out to revolve around these things, the warts, something we can use fMRI/MRI/plain sight to investigate in 2017.

You mean if ever your theory is proved correct then it will have been unfair to ridicule it. That's true. There can be connections between one's mental health and one's physical state but suggesting that sin manifests itself in some mark on the body is a concept that belongs to a superstitious past not to a well-informed future.

Oscar Wilde wrote an interesting novel roughly along these lines: Picture of Dorian Gray, but of course it was fictitious.

1. You know very well the World does not accept inquisitions in 2017. And science is most steady and trustworthy too, neurology, psychology, medicine etc. My reasoning, thus, can not contain superstition because of the scientific description to be produced.

2. If I do not have evidence yet of research that has never taken place then certainly so do not you either! In other words, you do not know what you are talking about! And besides, in trying to interpret you as honest here, you should know very well this can be scientifically investigated! Warts/cancerous cells are not magic creatures and people's mentalities can be thoroughly examined too!