Aren't Jehovah's Witnesses people truthful witnesses?

[paarsurrey1]

Aren't Jehovah's Witnesses people truthful witnesses, please?

1 Corinthians

12But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God* that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.
http://biblehub.com/niv/1_corinthians/15.htm

Jesus did not die on the Cross, he survived, so as per Paul's own argument Pauline-Christianity's "faith is futile". Right, please?
Please correct me if I am wrong with reasonable arguments.
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*Jehovah

This entails that the Jehovah-Witnesses' people who believe in Paul and the Pauline-Christianity, are false witnesses as long as, and if they have no concrete evidence/s of Jesus, not dying on the Cross.Right, please?
Please correct me if I am wrong with reasonable arguments.

Regards

[polonius]

paarsurrey1 wrote:

Jesus did not die on the Cross, he survived, so as per Paul's own argument Pauline-Christianity's "faith is futile". Right, please?

Please correct me if I am wrong with reasonable arguments.

RESPONSE:The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in one page of his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.

P.E. Easterling, E. J. Kenney (general editors), The Cambridge History of Latin Literature, page 892 (Cambridge University Press, 1982, reprinted 1996). ISBN 0-521-21043-7

See also:
• Syme, Ronald (1958). Tacitus. Oxford: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-814327-3.
• Tacitus and the Writing of History by Ronald H. Martin 1981 ISBN 0-520-04427-4
• Tacitus' Annals by Ronald Mellor 2010 Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-515192-5

The extant manuscripts of the writings of the first-century Romano-Jewish historian Flavius Josephus include references to Jesus and the origins of Christianity.

Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 of the Antiquities, a passage that states that Jesus the Messiah was a wise teacher who was crucified by Pilate,


Thus your argument is hardly reasonable or historically correct.

You are welcome!

[paarsurrey1]

What organizations does one mean here, please?
Regards

The Watchtower & Tract Society.

Can one mention the prophecies that "Watchtower & Tract Society" supported but are falsified, please?

Regards

[JP Cusick]

The Watchtower & Tract Society.

Can one mention the prophecies that "Watchtower & Tract Society" supported but are falsified, please?

The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society is the official name for the Jehovah Witnesses.

Link wiki = JW / WBTS

[For_The_Kingdom]

Can one mention the prophecies that "Watchtower & Tract Society" supported but are falsified, please?

Regards

Google "Jehovah's Witnesses 1975".

[Thia]

The Watchtower organisation call themselves the 'Truth'. There's the first fallacy. Christ is the "TRUTH, the way and the life". They have 'pieces' of truth but not the whole picture. Only Christ has that. And there is no way to Jahveh EXCEPT through Christ. A token mention of Him at the end of a prayer to a man-constructed 'Jehovah' won't cut it.

Peace
Your servant and slave of Christ
Thia x

[polonius]

Can one mention the prophecies that "Watchtower & Tract Society" supported but are falsified, please?

Regards

Google "Jehovah's Witnesses 1975".

RESPONSE: The answer would be a very long post! So lets start with this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Tow ... _rulership

Russell's Studies in the Scriptures series had explicitly identified October 1914 as the "full end of the times of the Gentiles" and consequently the "farthest limit" of human rulership.[15] It would bring the beginning of Christ's millennial reign[1] and all his followers expected the immediate "translation of the saints" to rule with the revealed Christ that year. Following the earth's tribulation and unrest, the Jews would return to God's favor, the "nominal Church" would have fallen, the final battle between Christ and Satan would have ended, the kingdoms of the world would be overthrown, and Christ would have gathered his saints into heaven, where they would reign with him, and when the millennium would begin.

Russell, Charles Taze (1889). The Time is At Hand. Studies in the Scriptures. 2. Allegheny, PA: Tower Publishing Co. pp. 76, 77.

But like so many of the JW prophecies, it never happened.

[brianbbs67]

But like so many of the JW prophecies, it never happened.

YEs, they say we are inthe 1000 years tribulation and God's kingdom is established but know one knows it???? Also, Christ is the Angel Micheal. Craziness to me. It all comes from the Times, time and half a time scripture which even the Hebrews admit no one knows how to interpret.

[JP Cusick]

They have 'pieces' of truth but not the whole picture.

Every group or Church or religious denomination claims to have the whole truth, and not one of any of them are accurate.

The JW's being mistaken about 1914 and 1975 is based on trying to know the times, so their's was an honest mistake.

At least the JW's do not have the crazy nonsense doctrine that many people (Christians) are going to just disappear as they get transported into Heaven by the ridiculous notion of a RAPTURE.

The JW'a do have a lot of truth, which other denominations do not have, and the JW's do have some of the most dedicated members of any religion on earth.

[Thia]

Every group or Church or religious denomination claims to have the whole truth, and not one of any of them are accurate

Exactly. Which is why folk should go directly to Christ who is the TRUTH and not to ANY religion. Christ doesn't make guesses as to prophecy, he speaks truth, nothing less. Attempting to guess at times and dates makes the one who does so reprehensible for misleading many. As does fabricating the truth to make a version of it. This is why we shouldn't put our 'trust in earthling man to whom no salvation belongs'.

Peace to you
Thia.

[JP Cusick]

Which is why folk should go directly to Christ who is the TRUTH and not to ANY religion. Christ doesn't make guesses as to prophecy, he speaks truth, nothing less.

I hear stuff like that often, but actually going to Christ is not so simple as people claim.

Some people say Christ but others say going to Jesus, and some say they go directly to God or to the Father, and I see all of that as vain and self deception.

The only one (1) that any of us can go to is our own sincerity, in that we need to be truthful to our self, and we need to be honest with our own conscience, and then we can only hope that we are acceptable and accurate.

Attempting to guess at times and dates makes the one who does so reprehensible for misleading many. As does fabricating the truth to make a version of it. This is why we shouldn't put our 'trust in earthling man to whom no salvation belongs'.

I agree not to trust any other person for our own faith and our own salvation, but to trust other people for other things is okay some times, and some other times it is not wise.

To mislead people about the end times (or other times) is not a big deal, because mistakes are natural and normal, and people do love to be right even when it is a senseless gamble, and it is not a sin to make a mistake.

And we can not say that they misled people and thereby they are sinful and they need to be damned - no - especially when each person is responsible for our self.

They got the time and date wrong - well boohoo - why did people believe the time and date in the first place? and why will not the people stop following along like sheep?

Peace to you
Thia.

And 'Salaam-Alaikum' to you too.

James