The difference between heaven and our world :
Is like waking from a dream to realize, become conscious of the fact , you are convicted and sentenced, and they are going to hang you today.
Heaven is the dream of course.
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Re: heaven and our world
Post #2[Replying to post 1 by dio9]
If you are trying to say that "our world" is real and heaven is a fantasy, I couldn't agree more. I'll have to admit though that I have no idea what the hanging and so worth means.
If you are trying to say that "our world" is real and heaven is a fantasy, I couldn't agree more. I'll have to admit though that I have no idea what the hanging and so worth means.
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Post #3For me the fact is the reverse of this scenario regarding heaven. When one "wakes up" one realizes that fear and misery are illusions, that there exists only Peace and God and Love, that the object of your fear, the snake, has turned out only to be a rope....dio9 wrote: The difference between heaven and our world :
Is like waking from a dream to realize, become conscious of the fact , you are convicted and sentenced, and they are going to hang you today.
Heaven is the dream of course.
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Post #4[Replying to post 2 by Tcg]
just trying to say the cares of everyday life are distractions. Being a convict is perhaps the most drastic distraction a person could suffer. Jesus wasn't distracted by his crucifixion, most people would be. Heaven is simply not falling under the power of distractions which cause suffering. If we have faith and embrace heaven and not be distracted we can live in heaven here and now.
just trying to say the cares of everyday life are distractions. Being a convict is perhaps the most drastic distraction a person could suffer. Jesus wasn't distracted by his crucifixion, most people would be. Heaven is simply not falling under the power of distractions which cause suffering. If we have faith and embrace heaven and not be distracted we can live in heaven here and now.
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Post #5How is reality a distraction?
What does this have to do with reality?
If we have faith and embrace heaven and not be distracted we can live in heaven here and now.
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Post #7Both Heaven and Hell are real. This world is equally real but it is only temporary and when we have left it perhaps it will seem to have been only a dream. The important question is, which reality will we experience when we leave this world?dio9 wrote: Heaven is the dream of course.
We have all sinned and because God is holy and won't tolerate sin we deserve Hell. God loves us in spite of our sinfullness and has made a way we can be forgiven and go to Heaven instead. Jesus lives a sinless life and was sacrificed to pay for our sins. If we repent and acknowledge our sinfulness our final destiny will be Heaven.
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
Romans 1:20 ESV
Romans 1:20 ESV
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Post #8[Replying to post 7 by puddleglum]
this world was created to be paradise aka heaven on earth. Jesus taught listeners to wake up to that fact and let go of their foolishness . Clearly people didn't get it and only Jesus' sacrifice saved believers. But still even saved history shows believers didn't get Jesus' message to let go their fallen nature and discover the kingdom at hand. His message was become your true self, created by God not bad but very good.
this world was created to be paradise aka heaven on earth. Jesus taught listeners to wake up to that fact and let go of their foolishness . Clearly people didn't get it and only Jesus' sacrifice saved believers. But still even saved history shows believers didn't get Jesus' message to let go their fallen nature and discover the kingdom at hand. His message was become your true self, created by God not bad but very good.
