Many failed predictions of Jesus return..

Elijah John · Post by **Elijah John** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:15 pm

Matthew 16:27-28 New International Version (NIV)

27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Fatherâ€™s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
28 â€œTruly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.â€�

There have been many failed predictions of the "2nd coming of Christ". Most notably, Charles Taze Russell who predicted Jesus would return in 1914. When he didn't return, the prediction was revised to mean an "invisible return".

For debate, in light of the quoted passage from Matthew, was Jesus the first person to mistakenly predict his return?

How is Jesus prediction different from any of the others who have mistakenly predicted the time of his return?

alexxcJRO · Post by **alexxcJRO** » Fri May 25, 2018 1:18 am

Checkpoint wrote:

Just an opinion once again, given for free.

Proof of what you think and how you think, yes.

Proof that what you think and how you think is an accurate evaluation, it is not.

Firstly,

You just say itâ€™s my opinion but never substantiate.

How many times I have to say this: Just saying so does not make it so dear sir.

Secondly,

I donâ€™t have to prove â€œ jumping between unrelated topics, rapidly switching topics: Mathew 27 talking of one topic, Mathew 28 talking of different topic. â€œ This was your idea.

The â€œJesus had a fantastical beliefs that he was the son of an omnipotent, omniscient, morally perfect God, that he had a special power and importance(the savior of mankind), that he was perfect, sinlessâ€� is true according to the bible and Christians.

Seeing vividly and hearing the voice of an imaginary being is called hallucination.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Fri May 25, 2018 3:33 am

[Replying to post 91 by alexxcJRO]

I donâ€™t have to prove â€œ jumping between unrelated topics, rapidly switching topics: Mathew 27 talking of one topic, Mathew 28 talking of different topic. â€œ This was your idea.

Nothing unusual that in a conversation people move from one topic to another.

Including you and I, and including on this thread.

Seeing vividly and hearing the voice of an imaginary being is called hallucination.

You say God is "an imaginary being", but...

How many times I have to say this: Just saying so does not make it so dear sir.

alexxcJRO · Post by **alexxcJRO** » Fri May 25, 2018 5:20 am

Checkpoint wrote: Nothing unusual that in a conversation people move from one topic to another.

Including you and I, and including on this thread.

Dear sir we are talking about rapidly switching topics, called derailment or loose association; switching to topics that are unrelated.
Nice straw-man though.

Checkpoint wrote: You say God is "an imaginary being", but...

I was talking about Satan as the imaginary being.
Nice strawman though.

tam · Post by **tam** » Fri May 25, 2018 10:06 am

Peace to you Alex,

Checkpoint wrote: You say God is "an imaginary being", but...
I was talking about Satan as the imaginary being.
Nice strawman though.

Same point, though, right?

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Overcomer · Post by **Overcomer** » Fri May 25, 2018 11:03 am

alexcJRO wrote:

Seeing vividly and hearing the voice of an imaginary being is called hallucination.

How do you know he's imaginary?

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Fri May 25, 2018 11:10 am

Overcomer wrote: alexcJRO wrote:

Seeing vividly and hearing the voice of an imaginary being is called hallucination.
How do you know he's imaginary?

AlexJRO is not a clinician, but I would advise, for yourself and all around you that you go see one, soonest!
Your concerned friend,

dianaiad · Post by **dianaiad** » Fri May 25, 2018 7:16 pm

Willum wrote:
Overcomer wrote: alexcJRO wrote:

Seeing vividly and hearing the voice of an imaginary being is called hallucination.
How do you know he's imaginary?
AlexJRO is not a clinician, but I would advise, for yourself and all around you that you go see one, soonest!
Your concerned friend,

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Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Fri May 25, 2018 8:12 pm

alexxcJRO wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: Nothing unusual that in a conversation people move from one topic to another.

Including you and I, and including on this thread.
Dear sir we are talking about rapidly switching topics, called derailment or loose association; switching to topics that are unrelated.
Nice straw-man though.

Checkpoint wrote: You say God is "an imaginary being", but...
I was talking about Satan as the imaginary being.
Nice strawman though.

Derailment?Topics that are unrelated? Strawman?

Things you seem to be adept at.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Fri May 25, 2018 8:25 pm

[Replying to post 93 by alexxcJRO]

Dear sir we are talking about rapidly switching topics, called derailment or loose association; switching to topics that are unrelated.

No, that's not what we are talking about, but what you are talking about.

How many times I have to say this: Just saying so does not make it so dear sir.

alexxcJRO · Post by **alexxcJRO** » Fri May 25, 2018 11:49 pm

tam wrote: Peace to you Alex,

Checkpoint wrote: You say God is "an imaginary being", but...
I was talking about Satan as the imaginary being.
Nice strawman though.

Same point, though, right?

.

It may be but I was talking about Satan. Therefore straw-man.