What the word "codex" has meant, changes in inerra

[polonius]

https://bible.org/seriespage/6-bible-inerrant-word-god

“Formerly all that was necessary to affirm one’s belief in full inspiration was the statement, “I believe in the inspiration of the Bible.� But when some did not extend inspiration to the words of the text it became necessary to say, “I believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible.� To counter the teaching that not all parts of the Bible were inspired, one had to say, “I believe in the verbal, plenary inspiration of the Bible.� Then because some did not want to ascribe total accuracy to the Bible, it was necessary to say, “I believe in the verbal, plenary, infallible, inerrant inspiration of the Bible.� But then “infallible� and “inerrant� began to be limited to matters of faith only rather than also embracing all that the Bible records (including historical facts, genealogies, accounts of Creation, etc.), so it became necessary to add the concept of “unlimited inerrancy.� Each addition to the basic statement arose because of an erroneous teaching.�

Charles C. Ryrie, Basic Theology, Victor Books, Wheaton, IL, 1987,

“In the course of time, the terms canon and canonical came to be applied to the catalogue or list of sacred books distinguished and honored as belonging to God’s inspired Word. “Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, applying it to the Bible, especially to the Jewish books.�

Merrill F. Unger, Introductory Guide to the Old Testament, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, 1951, p. 47.

[Overcomer]

Do you have a question for debate, p.a?

[polonius]

Do you have a question for debate, p.a?

Response. Same one. How can scripture be "God breathed" and yet have so many contradictions?

The obvious answer seems to be it can't

[JehovahsWitness]

Do you have a question for debate, p.a?

Response. Same one. How can scripture be "God breathed" and yet have so many contradictions?

What has that got to do with the word CODEX?

[brianbbs67]

https://bible.org/seriespage/6-bible-inerrant-word-god

“Formerly all that was necessary to affirm one’s belief in full inspiration was the statement, “I believe in the inspiration of the Bible.� But when some did not extend inspiration to the words of the text it became necessary to say, “I believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible.� To counter the teaching that not all parts of the Bible were inspired, one had to say, “I believe in the verbal, plenary inspiration of the Bible.� Then because some did not want to ascribe total accuracy to the Bible, it was necessary to say, “I believe in the verbal, plenary, infallible, inerrant inspiration of the Bible.� But then “infallible� and “inerrant� began to be limited to matters of faith only rather than also embracing all that the Bible records (including historical facts, genealogies, accounts of Creation, etc.), so it became necessary to add the concept of “unlimited inerrancy.� Each addition to the basic statement arose because of an erroneous teaching.�

Charles C. Ryrie, Basic Theology, Victor Books, Wheaton, IL, 1987,

“In the course of time, the terms canon and canonical came to be applied to the catalogue or list of sacred books distinguished and honored as belonging to God’s inspired Word. “Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, applying it to the Bible, especially to the Jewish books.�

Merrill F. Unger, Introductory Guide to the Old Testament, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, 1951, p. 47.

co·dex
ˈk�ˌdeks/Submit
noun
noun: codex; plural noun: codexes; plural noun: codices
an ancient manuscript text in book form.
an official list of medicines, chemicals, etc.


Ancient writings do not imply truth, necessarily, but they can. They can lead you closer. However, test all you hear and read. You never know what you will find. Without seeking there is no finding.

[polonius]

Do you have a question for debate, p.a?

Response. Same one. How can scripture be "God breathed" and yet have so many contradictions?

What has that got to do with the word CODEX?

RESPONSE:

It doesn't. "Codex" is a term which you used but evidently don't understand.

Re:
“In the course of time, the terms canon and canonical came to be applied to the catalogue or list of sacred books distinguished and honored as belonging to God’s inspired Word. “Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, applying it to the Bible, especially to the Jewish books.�

Merrill F. Unger, Introductory Guide to the Old Testament, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, 1951, p. 47.

In sum, "Codex" is a list of books having nothing to do with their accuracy or inaccuracy.

It seems evident that you are trying to avoid evidence of the contradictions and inaccuracy in scripture and can't deal with the obvious fact that the term "codex" means a collection of books and says nothing about their "inerrancy."

[polonius]

https://bible.org/seriespage/6-bible-inerrant-word-god

“Formerly all that was necessary to affirm one’s belief in full inspiration was the statement, “I believe in the inspiration of the Bible.� But when some did not extend inspiration to the words of the text it became necessary to say, “I believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible.� To counter the teaching that not all parts of the Bible were inspired, one had to say, “I believe in the verbal, plenary inspiration of the Bible.� Then because some did not want to ascribe total accuracy to the Bible, it was necessary to say, “I believe in the verbal, plenary, infallible, inerrant inspiration of the Bible.� But then “infallible� and “inerrant� began to be limited to matters of faith only rather than also embracing all that the Bible records (including historical facts, genealogies, accounts of Creation, etc.), so it became necessary to add the concept of “unlimited inerrancy.� Each addition to the basic statement arose because of an erroneous teaching.�

Charles C. Ryrie, Basic Theology, Victor Books, Wheaton, IL, 1987,

“In the course of time, the terms canon and canonical came to be applied to the catalogue or list of sacred books distinguished and honored as belonging to God’s inspired Word. “Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, applying it to the Bible, especially to the Jewish books.�

Merrill F. Unger, Introductory Guide to the Old Testament, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, 1951, p. 47.

co·dex
ˈk�ˌdeks/Submit
noun
noun: codex; plural noun: codexes; plural noun: codices
an ancient manuscript text in book form.
an official list of medicines, chemicals, etc.


Ancient writings do not imply truth, necessarily, but they can. They can lead you closer. However, test all you hear and read. You never know what you will find. Without seeking there is no finding.

RESPONSE: Well said!

[JehovahsWitness]

What has that got to do with the word CODEX?

RESPONSE:

It doesn't. "Codex" is a term which you used but evidently don't understand.

A codex (Latin for block of wood, book; plural codices) is a book in the format used for modern books, with separate pages normally bound together and given a cover. Although the modern book is technically a codex, the term is used only for manuscripts. The codex was a Roman invention that replaced the scroll, which was the first book form in all Eurasian cultures.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Codex

I'm still struggling to understand what the argument for biblical inerracy and the definition of codex have to do with each other.

A codex is simply a manuscript in book for (as opposed to a rolled scroll).


JW

[polonius]

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I'm still struggling to understand what the argument for biblical inerracy and the definition of codex have to do with each other.

A codex is simply a manuscript in book for (as opposed to a rolled scroll).


JW

JP posted:

Well it's in the bible canon and the bible canon is authorative in this forum. Do you have a more substantial to offer or are you simply asking "How do we know the bible (canon) is true?"
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RESPONSE:

It doesn't. It was a ploy you attempted on another thread evidently to avoid discussing the errors in scripture. Did you forget you raised it?

[JehovahsWitness]

I'm still struggling to understand what the argument for biblical inerracy and the definition of codex have to do with each other.

A codex is simply a manuscript in book for[m] (as opposed to a rolled scroll).


JW

JP posted:


RESPONSE:

It doesn't.

Okay. Thank you for your honesty.

Enjoy your thread.

JW