Nazarene was a Greek mistranslation of the Hebrew Nazarite.

[dio9]

Is it possible Jesus and his post resurrection followers were Nazarites? The sect begins at the Last supper when Jesus vows he will not drink wine again until the kingdom comes.
How about when Paul shaved his head at the end of a vow, recorded in Acts . He doesn't say what the vow was , maybe it had something to do with his famous collection offering from the Gentiles, but that's how Nazarite vows ended. in Acts 24:5–18 Paul was accused of as the "ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes", a Nazarene was a mistranslation of the sect of the Nazarites.
A Nazarite vow was imposes on John the Baptist by his parents. If John was indeed the leader of a Nazarite sect , Jesus was baptized into John's Nazarite sect and carried on the vow to bring the kingdom after John's death.

Agree or disagree the resurrected Jesus sect was a Nazarite sect.

[polonius]

Is it possible Jesus and his post resurrection followers were Nazarites? The sect begins at the Last supper when Jesus vows he will not drink wine again until the kingdom comes.
How about when Paul shaved his head at the end of a vow, recorded in Acts . He doesn't say what the vow was , maybe it had something to do with his famous collection offering from the Gentiles, but that's how Nazarite vows ended. in Acts 24:5–18 Paul was accused of as the "ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes", a Nazarene was a mistranslation of the sect of the Nazarites.
A Nazarite vow was imposes on John the Baptist by his parents. If John was indeed the leader of a Nazarite sect , Jesus was baptized into John's Nazarite sect and carried on the vow to bring the kingdom after John's death.

Agree or disagree the resurrected Jesus sect was a Nazarite sect.

RESPONSE: Common sense shows that Jesus was a Nazarene. (lived in Nazareth). But not a Nazarite. Water to wine at Cana, and Eucharist at the Last Supper.

After first refusing wine (with myrrh) on the cross, Jesus did drink wine without myrrh the second time it was offered. A Nazarite would not have.

Another of Matthew's scriptural errors.

[dio9]

Is it possible Jesus and his post resurrection followers were Nazarites? The sect begins at the Last supper when Jesus vows he will not drink wine again until the kingdom comes.
How about when Paul shaved his head at the end of a vow, recorded in Acts . He doesn't say what the vow was , maybe it had something to do with his famous collection offering from the Gentiles, but that's how Nazarite vows ended. in Acts 24:5–18 Paul was accused of as the "ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes", a Nazarene was a mistranslation of the sect of the Nazarites.
A Nazarite vow was imposes on John the Baptist by his parents. If John was indeed the leader of a Nazarite sect , Jesus was baptized into John's Nazarite sect and carried on the vow to bring the kingdom after John's death.

Agree or disagree the resurrected Jesus sect was a Nazarite sect.

RESPONSE: Common sense shows that Jesus was a Nazarene. (lived in Nazareth). But not a Nazarite. Water to wine at Cana, and Eucharist at the Last Supper.

After first refusing wine (with myrrh) on the cross, Jesus did drink wine without myrrh the second time it was offered. A Nazarite would not have.

Another of Matthew's scriptural errors.

The crucifixion traumatized him terribly, but he did vow at the supper not to drink wine again . Even Samson broke his vow when he let his hair be cut. from the Gospel of John,"30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!� Then bowing His head, He gave up His spirit." The vow was over.

In Mark Jesus did not drink the wine,
"6 Someone ran and filled a sponge with sour wine, fixed it on a reed, offered Him a drink, and said, “Let’s see if Elijah comes to take Him down!�
37 But Jesus let out a loud cry and breathed His last. 38

In Matthew Jesus did not drink,

" 48 Immediately one of them ran and got a sponge, filled it with sour wine, fixed it on a reed, and offered Him a drink. 49 But the rest said, “Let’s see if Elijah comes to save Him!� 50 Jesus shouted again with a loud voice and gave up His spirit.

and in Luke he did not drink.

Check it out Jesus remained true to his vow.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 1 by dio9]

When I read your OP title, which states, "Nazarene was a Greek mistranslation of the Hebrew Nazarite.", I expected you to address the Greek and Hebrew words involved. Have you studied them to support your suspicion that mistranslation is involved? If so, what did you find?

[Overcomer]

Tcg is right. We need definitions.

Jesus was from Nazareth, making him a Nazarene or a Nazarite, but note the difference in spelling from Nazirite.

Numbers 6:2-6 outlines the requirements for a Nazirite:

Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘When a man or woman makes a special vow, the vow of a Nazirite, to dedicate himself to the LORD, he shall abstain from wine and strong drink; he shall drink no vinegar, whether made from wine or strong drink, nor shall he drink any grape juice nor eat fresh or dried grapes. ‘All the days of his separation he shall not eat anything that is produced by the grape vine, from the seeds even to the skin. ‘All the days of his vow of separation no razor shall pass over his head. He shall be holy until the days are fulfilled for which he separated himself to the LORD; he shall let the locks of hair on his head grow long. ‘All the days of his separation to the LORD he shall not go near to a dead person. "

So there were three requirements:

1. Don't drink alcohol.
2. Don't cut your hair.
3. Don't touch anything dead.

We know Jesus drank wine (Luke 7:34). We know he touched dead people (Luke 7:12-14; Luke 8:49-53)

So you have to ask yourself why Jesus said he wouldn't drink wine again until the coming of the Kingdom of God. The reason is a theological one.

[Overcomer]

Tcg is right. We need definitions.

Jesus was from Nazareth, making him a Nazarene or a Nazarite, but note the difference in spelling from Nazirite.

Numbers 6:2-6 outlines the requirements for a Nazirite:

Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘When a man or woman makes a special vow, the vow of a Nazirite, to dedicate himself to the LORD, he shall abstain from wine and strong drink; he shall drink no vinegar, whether made from wine or strong drink, nor shall he drink any grape juice nor eat fresh or dried grapes. ‘All the days of his separation he shall not eat anything that is produced by the grape vine, from the seeds even to the skin. ‘All the days of his vow of separation no razor shall pass over his head. He shall be holy until the days are fulfilled for which he separated himself to the LORD; he shall let the locks of hair on his head grow long. ‘All the days of his separation to the LORD he shall not go near to a dead person. "

So there were three requirements:

1. Don't drink alcohol.
2. Don't cut your hair.
3. Don't touch anything dead.

We know Jesus drank wine (Luke 7:34). We know he touched dead people (Luke 7:12-14; Luke 8:49-53). And we know he was given vinegar (cheap sour wine) on the cross.

So you have to ask yourself why Jesus said he wouldn't drink wine again until the coming of the Kingdom of God. He is making an eschatological statement regarding his second coming. He is saying that he will not celebrate the Passover again until the messianic banquet (also called the marriage supper of the Lamb which he shares with his Bride, the Church; see Rev. 16:6-9). Therefore, it has nothing to do with being a Nazirite.

Here is an article for further reading:

https://readingacts.com/2014/11/14/the- ... c-banquet/

[dio9]

[Replying to Overcomer]

My thought is , Jesus made the vow at his last supper.

[dio9]

[Replying to post 4 by Tcg]
This is as deeply as I have gone into this but find the idea that Jesus took the Nazarite vow before his crucifixion interesting.

From Wikipedia:

The practice of a nazirite vow is part of the ambiguity of the Greek term "Nazarene"[36] that appears in the New Testament; the sacrifice of a lamb and the offering of bread does suggest a relationship with Christian symbolism (then again, these are the two most frequent offerings prescribed in Leviticus, so no definitive conclusions can be drawn). While a saying in (Matthew 11:18–19 and Luke 7:33–35) attributed to Jesus makes it doubtful that he, reported to be "a winebibber", was a nazirite during his ministry, the verse ends with the curious statement, "But wisdom is justified of all her children". The advocation of the ritual consumption of wine as part of the Passover, the tevilah in Mark 14:22–25 indicated he kept this aspect of the nazirite vow when Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God." The ritual with which Jesus commenced his ministry (recorded via Greek as "Baptism") and his vow in Mark 14:25 and Luke 22:15–18 at the end of his ministry, do respectively reflect the final and initial steps (purification by immersion in water and abstaining from wine) inherent in a Nazirite vow. These passages may indicate that Jesus intended to identify himself as a Nazirite ("not drinking the fruit of vine") before his crucifixion.[37]

Luke the Evangelist clearly was aware that wine was forbidden in this practice, for the angel (Luke 1:13–15) that announces the birth of John the Baptist foretells that "he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb", in other words, a nazirite from birth, the implication being that John had taken a lifelong nazirite vow.[38]

Acts of the Apostles is also attributed to Luke (see Luke-Acts) and in Acts 18:18 it is reported that the apostle Paul cut off his hair "because of a vow he had taken".[39] From Acts 21:23-24Acts we learn that the early Jewish Christians occasionally took the temporary Nazarite vow, and it is probable that the vow of St. Paul mentioned in Acts 18:18, was of a similar nature, although the shaving of his head in Cenchrea, outside of Palestine, was not in conformity with the rules laid down in the sixth chapter of Numbers, nor with the interpretation of them by the Rabbinical schools of that era.[40] If we are to believe the legend of Hegesippus quoted by Eusebius,[41] James, brother of Jesus, Bishop of Jerusalem, was a Nazarite, and performed with rigorous exactness all the practices enjoined by that rule of life. In Acts 21:20–24 Paul was advised to counter the claims made by some Judaizers (that he encouraged a revolt against the Mosaic Law). He showed the "believers there" (believers in Jesus, i.e. the Jewish Christians) in Jerusalem otherwise by purifying himself and accompanying four men to the temple who had taken nazaritic vows[42] (so as to refute the naysayers).[43]

This stratagem only delayed the inevitable mob assault on him. This event brought about the accusation[citation needed] in Acts 24:5–18 that Paul was the "ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes", and thus provides further verification that the term Nazarene was a mistranslation of the term Nazirite.[citation needed] In any case, the relationship of Paul of Tarsus and Judaism is still disputed.

What is curious is that Luke does not here mention the apostle James the Just as taking nazirite vows, although later Christian historians (e.g. Epiphanius Panarion 29.4) believed he had, and the vow of a nazirite would explain the asceticism Eusebius of Caesarea ascribed to James,[44] a claim that gave James the title "James the Just".

[polonius]

This stratagem only delayed the inevitable mob assault on him. This event brought about the accusation[citation needed] in Acts 24:5–18 that Paul was the "ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes", and thus provides further verification that the term Nazarene was a mistranslation of the term Nazirite.[citation needed] In any case, the relationship of Paul of Tarsus and Judaism is still disputed.

RESPONSE:
No. In this case the "Nazorenes"are followers of Jesus of Nazarus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_(sect)

The Nazarenes originated as a sect of first-century Judaism. The first use of the term "sect of the Nazarenes" is in the Book of Acts in the New Testament, where Paul is accused of being a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes ("π�ωτοστάτην τε τῆς τῶν �αζω�αίων αἱ�έσεως").[1] Then, the term simply designated followers of "Yeshua Natzri" (Jesus the Nazarene), as the Hebrew term נוֹצְרִי (nôṣrî) still does, but in the first to fourth centuries, the term was used for a sect of followers of Jesus who were closer to Judaism than most Christians

[dio9]

Nazarite vow nazareth? When I copied this word from Wicki google asked if I'd meant Nazareth. How easy it is to confuse .
For what its worth, Jesus began his ministry with the ritual nazarite initiation of Immersion , Baptism , and ended it with the vow to taste no wine again until the kingdom comes. These are the initial and final inherent's of the Nazarite vow.

Point two; When the angel announced the birth of John the Baptist the angel said the boy would be holy and drink no wine or strong drink , according to this scripture John was a Nazarite from birth.

Paul cut off his hair as part of a Vow. Acts also reports early Christians took Nazarite vows. This could be the vow Paul shaved his head for.

James the Just , first bishop of Jerusalem is also reported to have been nazarite.

Paul was encouraged to ritually purify himself and accompany 4 men to the temple who had taken Nazarite vows. to show his enemies that he upheld the Laws of Moses.

Later Paul was assaulted by a partizan mob for being a ringleader of the Nazarene? / Nazarite sect.

Nazarene/ Nazatite? the word could easily have been mixed up by the Greeks . A place on the map, little village in Galilee, for the ancient religious ascetic tradition.