So AiG sent me another flyer last week. In one section called "Genesis - it's worth a debate" they make the following statement.
For example, does it matter how you read the Word of God? If the Bible clearly states something like creation in six days, but we say we don't have to believe that, then we've unlocked a door that undermines biblical authority.
If we have this approach, what's to stop pushing that door more-widely open through the rest of the Bible, as many have done, and then deny the bodily resurrection of Christ and other vital doctrines?"
So, is that christianity? Is christianity a shutting off? A closing down? Questions that can't be asked, and statements that can't be made? A closing of doors (and locking them)?
And isn't this a clear sign of falsity? That we must rely on authority rather than accuracy? What other things are there that are true, but cannot be questioned?
DanZ
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mm. Easy, So are you saying that you should never Question the Bible? Just accept it because else, your a ´bad person´? So how are we suppose to learn if its True or Not? How do YOU determine such things?It certainly appears you never miss a single opportunity to question or bash the Bible and Christianity.
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Go ahead and question it. I did. Just "easy on the bashing" if you would!Scrotum wrote:mm. Easy, So are you saying that you should never Question the Bible? Just accept it because else, your a ´bad person´? So how are we suppose to learn if its True or Not? How do YOU determine such things?It certainly appears you never miss a single opportunity to question or bash the Bible and Christianity.
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Post #13juliod wrote: For example, does it matter how you read the Word of God? If the Bible clearly states something like creation in six days, but we say we don't have to believe that, then we've unlocked a door that undermines biblical authority.
Well first of all, the bible makes no indication that it is six literal days.
Psalms 90:4: For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past,
And as a watch during the night.
2 Peter 3:8: However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with God as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
Not only that, but concerning the "seventh day" in Paul's day he was still mentioning that they were in that 7th day!
It is only logical too, as God did not yet create the sun yet, which measures time.
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Considering the bashing that goes on by American Evangelical bible-believing Christian, I see no reason to take it easy. At least unbelievers are not saying you are going to hell.Go ahead and question it. I did. Just "easy on the bashing" if you would!
It seems anyone that doubts the questionable things you say are true and the less then convincing defenses you present are denegation.
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Post #15juliod wrote:For example, does it matter how you read the Word of God? If the Bible clearly states something like creation in six days, but we say we don't have to believe that, then we've unlocked a door that undermines biblical authority.
KnowJah wrote:Well first of all, the bible makes no indication that it is six literal days.
The writer of Exodus, part of the Bible, seems to make his case for the seventh-day Sabbath based on a literal six days of creation.Exodus 20 wrote:Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.
Now if someone would show how these passages relate to the six days of creation, you will have made your point.KnowJah wrote:Psalms 90:4: For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past, And as a watch during the night.
2 Peter 3:8: However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with God as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
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It's hard to understand how anyone could question that Genesis specifies an ordinary 24-hour day.
The exact phrase in Genesis 1 is "an evening and a morning, a day". That cannot be taken to mean 1000 years.
DanZ
The exact phrase in Genesis 1 is "an evening and a morning, a day". That cannot be taken to mean 1000 years.
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