Isn't Noah's the only true bloodline?

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:52 am

Since everyone is derived from Noah and his four sons, (that must have been a happy family with a lot of love,) what is the point of the generations before him?

I mean everything and everyone came from him right?
He could have made everything up before then, right?

At this nexus in history, how does anyone have any reliability that what came from him and his four sons was true?
Only one kept records, right? Before there was writing?

Isn't Noah the true Adam? and everything prior, a pointless exercise?
and why not at this point, just have started over instead of maintaining the horror wrought in the Garden? is God an idiot?

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:38 am

Willum wrote: Since everyone is derived from Noah and his four sons ... what is the point of the generations before him?

If the narrative is to be believed, it's to show the origins of mankind can be traced back to a single couple. And to explain were that couple came from. If Genesis began with Noah, one might still ask where all those people came from.

JW

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Willum · Post by **Willum** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:43 am

[Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness]

You mean if the narratives can be believed!?
<sarcasm>OMG! Thank you so much, this line of reasoning had not even occurred to me, nor did I dismiss it as irrelevant when I noted that Noah was the only demonstrable bloodline and chronicler of what went on before. </sarcasm>

What evidence do you have that this Noah can be trusted?
His ark seems incredible, in fact impossible.
His story about being the only survivor in an seaworthy craft, with two of every animal, seems suspect.

He also seems like a braggart - I mean one man saving humanity? By building a boat?
What about all the other boats in the world at the time, they were meant for sailing seas and things...?

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:54 am

Willum wrote:
His ark seems incredible, in fact impossible.

What specifically do you see as impossible about the ark?

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:11 pm

[Replying to post 4 by JehovahsWitness]

That any adult would find it to be more than a children's story!
I mean the original chronicler presumably told it to his children, knew it was a fable. That adults 10,000 years later take it seriously is just amazing.

Are you trying to turn this into another post about how Noah's Ark was possible? No, no, no.
This is about Noah's bloodline and personality, not his works.

Can you speak to this guys character, or what is recorded about him?

Wootah · Post by **Wootah** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:33 pm

[Replying to post 1 by Willum]

It does seem a far-fetched story. I think Jordan Peterson's talks on the Bible help make the story a lot more real from a psychological perspective. Everyone who has ever suffered depression knows what it is like to experience the flood and losing everything.

I think we all walk on water in life. Our lives are so fragile and at any time we can pulled down into the water and drown.

Jesus believed in it and I believe in Jesus and Noah's bloodline is Adam's is Jesus's, apparently.

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:41 pm

[Replying to post 6 by Wootah]

Well, aside from the obvious - everyone must have Adam's bloodline... or is that wrong?
Everyone must also have Noah's right, so, so what?

So this goes back to how do we know? Noah could've lied. Been senile, and so on...
So assuming the bottleneck, what assurance do we have of any of it - assuming, it is true?

Wootah · Post by **Wootah** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:47 pm

[Replying to Willum]

The flood narrative is global. Firc instance, Google Chinese characters and you will see that the flood narrative is embedded in their characters.

Arent there fossils of fish on top of the Himalayas?

In the end however it is all based on trusting the eyewitness of others. But that is how history works.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:10 pm

JehovahsWitness wrote:
Willum wrote:
His ark seems incredible, in fact impossible.

What specifically do you see as impossible about the ark?

Willum wrote:
Are you trying to turn this into another post about how Noah's Ark was possible? No, no, no.

So let me get this straight, you're allowed to say {quote} " [ the ] ark seems ... impossible" but Im not allowed to challenge what you say? Is that about it? You can say what you like, but it's "no, no, no" to anyone questioning you?

JW

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:39 pm

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

Youâ€™re allowed to stay on topic. You can segue for elaboration, not for the purpose of obfuscation, or to say â€œlook a squirrel, therefore God!â€�

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