How Atheists generally see "Eve".
How Christians generally see "Eve".
How do we come by such different perceptions ...?
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Post #11
In a thousand years from now, no matter the advancement we have made in understanding our origins, this is how those who consider a literal reading of an ancient mythology to be authoritative will see your early family portrait:
They'll also still consider this a reasonable representative of Eve's early life, her baby picture so to speak:
Once a literal reading of ancient story is accepted as the authority for truth, advancement in understanding ends.
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Post #13
No ...William wrote: Perhaps It’s Time to Take the Gaia Hypothesis Seriously?.
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Several recent books have criticised the Gaia hypothesis, expressing views ranging from "... the Gaia hypothesis lacks unambiguous observational support and has significant theoretical difficulties"[61] to "Suspended uncomfortably between tainted metaphor, fact, and false science, I prefer to leave Gaia firmly in the background"[10] to "The Gaia hypothesis is supported neither by evolutionary theory nor by the empirical evidence of the geological record".[62 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypo ... st_century
But it's certainly a step up from believing in biblical mythology ...
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[Replying to post 13 by StuartJ]
Perhaps It’s Time to Take the Gaia Hypothesis Seriously?.
Perhaps It’s Time to Take the Gaia Hypothesis Seriously?.
Certainly the idea of the Earth as a living being which is self conscious and highly creative need not be dismissed out of hand. At least it is something which can be built upon and improved as more information continues to be accessed in relation to the planet.No ...
Several recent books have criticised the Gaia hypothesis, expressing views ranging from "... the Gaia hypothesis lacks unambiguous observational support and has significant theoretical difficulties"[61] to "Suspended uncomfortably between tainted metaphor, fact, and false science, I prefer to leave Gaia firmly in the background"[10] to "The Gaia hypothesis is supported neither by evolutionary theory nor by the empirical evidence of the geological record".[62 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypo ... st_century
But it's certainly a step up from believing in biblical mythology ...
[LINK]DAVID GRINSPOON wrote:Can a planet be alive? Lynn Margulis, a giant of late 20th-century biology, who had an incandescent intellect that veered toward the unorthodox, thought so. She and chemist James Lovelock together theorized that life must be a planet-altering phenomenon and the distinction between the “living� and “nonliving� parts of Earth is not as clear-cut as we think. Many members of the scientific community derided their theory, called the Gaia hypothesis, as pseudoscience, and questioned their scientific integrity. But now Margulis and Lovelock may have their revenge. Recent scientific discoveries are giving us reason to take this hypothesis more seriously. At its core is an insight about the relationship between planets and life that has changed our understanding of both, and is shaping how we look for life on other worlds.
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Post #15
Biblical truth in "God's" own words ...
The mythological deity Yahweh creates the planet's first female (modern) human from one of the mud-man's ribs ...
According to Luis Josephus - and other believers - you can make stuff up to fill in the blanks ...
And if there is stuff you just CAN'T answer ...
You can tell folks to ask "God" themselves ...
Or have a "guess" yourself.
You can do that when you're playing the Great Game of Pretend.
In other words, when God performed a miraculous surgery on Adam in order to create Eve, He took Adam’s entire side to do so – not just one rib. Afterwards, God also apparently re-created an entire new side for Adam to replace the void that was left and closed it up again in its place.
You may ask, “Why didn’t God just create Eve on her own without the need for Adam’s side?� I really don’t know. You will have to ask God that question yourself. My guess is that He wanted to emphasize the physical and spiritual significance of a man and woman becoming “one flesh� when they are married as stated in verse 24: https://yehudafm.wordpress.com/2016/12/ ... han-a-man/
The mythological deity Yahweh creates the planet's first female (modern) human from one of the mud-man's ribs ...
According to Luis Josephus - and other believers - you can make stuff up to fill in the blanks ...
And if there is stuff you just CAN'T answer ...
You can tell folks to ask "God" themselves ...
Or have a "guess" yourself.
You can do that when you're playing the Great Game of Pretend.
In other words, when God performed a miraculous surgery on Adam in order to create Eve, He took Adam’s entire side to do so – not just one rib. Afterwards, God also apparently re-created an entire new side for Adam to replace the void that was left and closed it up again in its place.
You may ask, “Why didn’t God just create Eve on her own without the need for Adam’s side?� I really don’t know. You will have to ask God that question yourself. My guess is that He wanted to emphasize the physical and spiritual significance of a man and woman becoming “one flesh� when they are married as stated in verse 24: https://yehudafm.wordpress.com/2016/12/ ... han-a-man/
No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.