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How many religions came from America?

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Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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oldbadger wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:17 am
kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:08 pm
Paul did teach things Jesus taught--Compare John 4:22-24 and 1 Cor 8:5-6. Romans 10:9-he mentions Jesus.
What?
1 Corinthians {8:5} For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) {8:6} But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.

What?
Romans {10:9} That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the
dead, thou shalt be saved.

And what has any of that to do with:
John . {4:22} Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. {4:23} But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. {4:24} God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

So this is your weak attempt to try and show that Paul really told or reminded those congregations about what Jesus said and did during his entire mission in life?

You don't even paste up your version of those verses, but at least this is all getting you to actually read through Paul's letters more carefully in your search for something that Paul actually said about what Jesus was doing during that mission. There's nothing. Not a line, apart from mention of a last meal and last hours.
Your church is mostly built upon Paul's ideas and words before anything Jesus said or did.

Both Paul and Jesus name only the Father as God. I know 100% all scripture is inspired by God.

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kjw47 wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:15 pm Both Paul and Jesus name only the Father as God.
It's just sad that Paul had no interest in anything that Jesus said or did, save the last meal and hours.
I know 100% all scripture is inspired by God.
So my KJV scripture is ok by you?

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oldbadger wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:21 am
kjw47 wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:15 pm Both Paul and Jesus name only the Father as God.
It's just sad that Paul had no interest in anything that Jesus said or did, save the last meal and hours.
I know 100% all scripture is inspired by God.
So my KJV scripture is ok by you?
Iam confident Paul lived by every word Jesustaught to the best of his ability. He went through hell standing up for Jesus and Gods kingdom.
Most of it. there are errors in the kjv, not to mention the removal of Gods name by satans will.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:57 pm Iam confident Paul lived by every word Jesustaught to the best of his ability. He went through hell standing up for Jesus and Gods kingdom.
No he didn't follow the words of Jesus, and when he had troubles they were all about himself. He left his fellows to their fate whilst hiding behind his Roman citizenship.
Most of it. there are errors in the kjv, not to mention the removal of Gods name by satans will.
What, like referring to God as 'God', like you do all the time and in every post of yours? Satans will? !!!!

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oldbadger wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:18 am
kjw47 wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:57 pm Iam confident Paul lived by every word Jesustaught to the best of his ability. He went through hell standing up for Jesus and Gods kingdom.
No he didn't follow the words of Jesus, and when he had troubles they were all about himself. He left his fellows to their fate whilst hiding behind his Roman citizenship.
Most of it. there are errors in the kjv, not to mention the removal of Gods name by satans will.
What, like referring to God as 'God', like you do all the time and in every post of yours? Satans will? !!!!

God isn't writing my posts. God wrote the bible through men. No man has the right to alter it.

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kjw47 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:42 pm God isn't writing my posts. God wrote the bible through men. No man has the right to alter it.
You trash folks for using the name/title 'God' in their bibles, yet you use it yourself, all the time.
Hypocrisy, much?

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oldbadger wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:36 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:42 pm God isn't writing my posts. God wrote the bible through men. No man has the right to alter it.
You trash folks for using the name/title 'God' in their bibles, yet you use it yourself, all the time.
Hypocrisy, much?

Justin your false reasonings. God isnt writing my posts, i am, God inspired his name in his bible 7000 places. Men had no right to remove it. Wicked men removed it by satans will. All using those altered versions are being mislead into supporting satans will over Gods will. It altered people view of truth.
Example-Joel 2:31-32--Those who call on the name YHWH(Jehovah) will be saved--quoted 2 x in the NT, but since you have LORD at Joel, at Acts 2:21 and romans 10:13, both spots in your bible have Lord, but both spots are quoting Joel so Gods name belongs in all 3 spots--And 1 Cor 8:6--there is one Lord-Jesus--thus they will call on the name Jesus to be saved because they lack truth. Because Gods name was removed to mislead by satans will.

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kjw47 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:09 pm Justin your false reasonings. God isnt writing my posts, i am, God inspired his name in his bible 7000 places. Men had no right to remove it. Wicked men removed it by satans will. All using those altered versions are being mislead into supporting satans will over Gods will. It altered people view of truth.
Meh..... God wasn't writing those books, people were, just like you writing these posts.
Example-Joel 2:31-32--Those who call on the name YHWH(Jehovah) will be saved--quoted 2 x in the NT, but since you have LORD at Joel, at Acts 2:21 and romans 10:13, both spots in your bible have Lord, but both spots are quoting Joel so Gods name belongs in all 3 spots--And 1 Cor 8:6--there is one Lord-Jesus--thus they will call on the name Jesus to be saved because they lack truth. Because Gods name was removed to mislead by satans will.
Luke wrote Acts, and Paul wrote Romans, and 1 Corinthians, not God nor any Devil.

Just as you write your posts, and you all refer to 'God'

But the idea that your benevolent and loving God will do such bad things to billions of people if they might have got his name wrong must show you what kind of a God you are following. That's no God worth following imo.

I'm a Deist so I stoop to the commands of Mother Nature and I know that you have to as well.

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oldbadger wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:27 am
kjw47 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:09 pm Justin your false reasonings. God isnt writing my posts, i am, God inspired his name in his bible 7000 places. Men had no right to remove it. Wicked men removed it by satans will. All using those altered versions are being mislead into supporting satans will over Gods will. It altered people view of truth.
Meh..... God wasn't writing those books, people were, just like you writing these posts.
Example-Joel 2:31-32--Those who call on the name YHWH(Jehovah) will be saved--quoted 2 x in the NT, but since you have LORD at Joel, at Acts 2:21 and romans 10:13, both spots in your bible have Lord, but both spots are quoting Joel so Gods name belongs in all 3 spots--And 1 Cor 8:6--there is one Lord-Jesus--thus they will call on the name Jesus to be saved because they lack truth. Because Gods name was removed to mislead by satans will.
Luke wrote Acts, and Paul wrote Romans, and 1 Corinthians, not God nor any Devil.

Just as you write your posts, and you all refer to 'God'

But the idea that your benevolent and loving God will do such bad things to billions of people if they might have got his name wrong must show you what kind of a God you are following. That's no God worth following imo.

I'm a Deist so I stoop to the commands of Mother Nature and I know that you have to as well.

Its not because they have his name wrong-They are being mislead into serving a non existent trinity=breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. You just twist things in your false reasonings.

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kjw47 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:59 pm Its not because they have his name wrong-
So its nothing to do with the hundreds of different names/languages for 'God'....... after all your posts. :?
They are being mislead into serving a non existent trinity=breaking Gods #1 commandment daily.
You don't believe that Jesus is God then, nor in any Holy Ghost.

There is just God. I can't imagine that either belief would cause a persion to be dashed in to eternal fire, or whatever.

You just twist things in your false reasonings.
I'm a deist. I believe that Mother Nature rules here, and you may find this out in time maybe?

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