How many religions came from America?

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How many religions came from America?

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Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?
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oldbadger wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:29 am
kjw47 wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:33 pm Gods kingdom will be in full control. Like a govt, that has a king.
Not likely though.
Your God doesn't seem to be interested enough, or efficient enough to fulfill that.

But at least you don't believe that Jesus will be back to rule, like so many Christians.
The idea that Jesus is God has always seemed very strange to me, and in that we both can agree, I guess.

Jesus isnt God. The Greek Lexicons prove the error in trinity translation. A god is correct, not God.= means has godlike qualities.
Jesus is on his throne in heaven right now. It began at Rev 6=1914 according to the prophecy in Daniel.

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kjw47 wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:39 pm Jesus isnt God.
That's what I wrote as well.
Jesus is on his throne in heaven right now. It began at Rev 6=1914 according to the prophecy in Daniel.
Jesus would have spat at the very idea of sitting upon any throne. He was a working person, supported the common people and totally rejected any ideas about thrones.

But if that's what you believe, then ok.

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I'm not sure exactly how many different individual Native American practices there are. Not to mention the ones that were lost due to the tribe being extinct.

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PolytheistWitch wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:49 am I'm not sure exactly how many different individual Native American practices there are. Not to mention the ones that were lost due to the tribe being extinct.
I listed a few in post #2. Oddly the poster asking this question rejected them for some reason. And yes, given the multiple genocides the European invaders committed, it is hard to know how many there may have been.


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oldbadger wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:32 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:39 pm Jesus isnt God.
That's what I wrote as well.
Jesus is on his throne in heaven right now. It began at Rev 6=1914 according to the prophecy in Daniel.
Jesus would have spat at the very idea of sitting upon any throne. He was a working person, supported the common people and totally rejected any ideas about thrones.

But if that's what you believe, then ok.

God( The ancient of days) appointed one like the son of man( a created being) a kingship( Daniel 7:13-15)- this is Michael --he was sent to earth and named Jesus as a mortal. It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in these last days. It began here at Rev 6:1--he receives his crown. The ride of the white horse= righteous war. It was the war in heaven at Rev 6--Michael took the ride, but only Jesus gets the crown proving Michael is Jesus. And (upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= 1Thess 4:16)---it is his voice.

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kjw47 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:10 pm God( The ancient of days) appointed one like the son of man( a created being) a kingship( Daniel 7:13-15)- this is Michael --he was sent to earth and named Jesus as a mortal. It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in these last days. It began here at Rev 6:1--he receives his crown. The ride of the white horse= righteous war. It was the war in heaven at Rev 6--Michael took the ride, but only Jesus gets the crown proving Michael is Jesus. And (upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= 1Thess 4:16)---it is his voice.
War in your heaven? Crowns, thrones and ancient stories about fortune-tellers? Good luck with all this.

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oldbadger wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:22 am
kjw47 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:10 pm God( The ancient of days) appointed one like the son of man( a created being) a kingship( Daniel 7:13-15)- this is Michael --he was sent to earth and named Jesus as a mortal. It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in these last days. It began here at Rev 6:1--he receives his crown. The ride of the white horse= righteous war. It was the war in heaven at Rev 6--Michael took the ride, but only Jesus gets the crown proving Michael is Jesus. And (upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= 1Thess 4:16)---it is his voice.
War in your heaven? Crowns, thrones and ancient stories about fortune-tellers? Good luck with all this.

All have watched revelation passing before their eyes. its nearing the fall of Babylon the great( worldwide false religions) That locks the door to all.

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kjw47 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:09 pm All have watched revelation passing before their eyes. its nearing the fall of Babylon the great( worldwide false religions) That locks the door to all.
So much for your gospel of 'good news', eh? Jesus had nothing to do with all these strange ideas.
Revelation was written by a man who lived upon an Island where hallucinogenic mushrooms grew there. It does explain a lot, you know.
And if that man was the same author who wrote G-John then he was an impost, certainly not a Galilean Boatman who walked with Jesus. His gospel catches him out rather easily.

And who told you such silly names as 'Babylon the Great', so strange to most that you need to translate all in to sense?

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oldbadger wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:57 am
kjw47 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:09 pm All have watched revelation passing before their eyes. its nearing the fall of Babylon the great( worldwide false religions) That locks the door to all.
So much for your gospel of 'good news', eh? Jesus had nothing to do with all these strange ideas.
Revelation was written by a man who lived upon an Island where hallucinogenic mushrooms grew there. It does explain a lot, you know.
And if that man was the same author who wrote G-John then he was an impost, certainly not a Galilean Boatman who walked with Jesus. His gospel catches him out rather easily.

And who told you such silly names as 'Babylon the Great', so strange to most that you need to translate all in to sense?

You listen to men who do not know. God inspired the words of revelation. Rev 17:5 mentions babylon the great=a harlot=all false religions.

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kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:09 pm You listen to men who do not know. God inspired the words of revelation. Rev 17:5 mentions babylon the great=a harlot=all false religions.
You have no ideas about the people who I listen to.
No, God never did inspire revelation, nor this junk about harlots, the Syrian city nor anything else.

This spin, together with many other church constructs of those times is nothing at all to do with anything that Jesus stood for or spoke about.
G-John turned the enemies of Jesus from the Temple Priesthood in to 'The Jews', an outrageous lie...if wickedness exists in the bible, then there is a great chunk of it, right there.
And Paul hasd no interest in anything that Jesus said or did, apart from the last meal and hours.

Who is listening to the wrong men?

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