Can a man or angel create commandments?

[Wootah]

Can a man or angel create commandments?

Jon 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.�

Is this evidence that leads towards Jesus being God or not?

[Elijah John]

Can a man or angel create commandments?

Yes, humans do it all the time. They are called laws or rules.

Jesus making a new commandment in no way proves anything, except that he made a new commandment.

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 2 by Elijah John]

Rules and laws of governments aren't commandments of God.

[Elijah John]

[Replying to post 2 by Elijah John]

Rules and laws of governments aren't commandments of God.

Sometimes they overlap, as in "though shalt not murder".

But I think your reasoning is circular. You seem to be saying that:

"1) Only God gives Commandments.
2) Jesus gave us a new Commandment, therefore
3) Jesus is God.

The fact that Jesus (or John's version of Jesus) gave us a new Commandment is not evidence that he is God.

Example, "I, (EJ) give you some new Commandments:

-Thou shalt not grumble or complain.
-Be grateful for your blessings.

Does that make me God?

And does the mere fact that I just gave them indicate that I even have the authority to issue these "Commandments"?

Of course they are intrinsically good, but they don't prove anything.

[JehovahsWitness]

Can a man or angel create commandments?

Yes of course, a commandement is simply an enforceable law and any man can make them indeed the bible says ...

[PROVERBS 6 :20

"Keep, my son, the commandment of your father and do not forget the law of your mother."

- Aramaic Bible in Plain English

Only God has the ABSOLUTE right to issue divine ccommandement, and we usually call humans that transmit divine law as "Prophets". Moses and Jesus were Prophets as they communicated Divine Law.

Jon 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.�

Is this evidence that leads towards Jesus being God or not?

No, as demonstrated above issuing commandments is not evidence one is Almighty God. Prophets never claim they initiated the commandements they give, but they acknowledge that Jehovah (YHWH) is the ultimate "lawgiver" and they but humble messengers. Note Jesus words spoken on the same occassion ...

JOHN 14 :24

The word that you are hearing is not mine, but belongs to the Father who sent me

[polonius]

Wootah posted:

[Replying to post 2 by Elijah John]

Rules and laws of governments aren't commandments of God.

RESPONSE:

Neither are the supposed commandments of God. They were written by men.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 1 by Wootah]

There's nothing earthshattering here. Jesus was making rules for his little club of disciples. It'd be like a Scoutmaster making rules for his troop. He doesn't become God by doing so.



Tcg

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 4 by Elijah John]

Thats not circular reasoning. Thats a simple solligism that proves my argument.

If EJ sincerely gives a new commandment then either EJ is God or is blaspheming. Jesus could be blaspheming. I am OK with those that conclude that Jesus is blaspheming in this thread.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 4 by Elijah John]

Thats not circular reasoning.

It is nothing but circular reasoning. You claim only God can make commandments and then claim that Jesus making rules for 12 dudes is an example of a God making rules.


I just told my cat to not climb my drapes. I am God!



Tcg

[Wootah]

[Replying to Tcg]

1) Only God gives Commandments.
2) Jesus gave us a new Commandment, therefore
3) Jesus is God.

Only frogs can jump
Jim can jump.
Therefore Jim is a frog.

Circular reasoning is assuming the conclusion in the premises.

http://www.softschools.com/examples/gra ... mples/401/