God's violent ways

[OnceConvinced]

The god of the bible tends do deal with sin and evil in very violent ways. Ie, wiping out cities, sending floods, ordering violent deaths, ordering the slaying of animals for sacrifices, sending curses and plagues, etc.

Can you point out any instances in the bible where God deals with sin and evil in non-violent ways?

And I mean God here. Not Jesus.
And there are times God showed mercy and didn't deal with the sin and evil, sure. But when he did, were there non-violent methods used?

[OnceConvinced]

. If you think this is wicked, take it up with HIM...

I begged and begged God to help me when I lost my faith ten years ago. Suffered a lot of anguish over it. I got absoutely no reply. What would be the point in taking anything up with a god who ignored me when I needed him most?

All I can do is ask those people such as yourself, what God was thinking. You're all I've got. And not only that but you, Ted claim to have been around long before you were even born, so you should be able to answer all my questions, shouldn't you?

But all I'm seeing so far are justifactions for God's violent and cruel ways. A god who cannot come up with any less barbaric ways to sort ouf his wayward creations.

Perhaps I'm better off not believing in such a monster?

[OnceConvinced]

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That makes no sense at all. That would make all the animals guilty of evil as well. What did they do?

In the flood story the animals are included in the death of mankind for the same violence in which men were indulging.

Yes, of course, those violent lions should have been eating grass instead of gazelles.

I actually wonder what spiders were trying to capture in their webs back in the garden of Eden. Falling leaves?

Did the flood change their ways?

Supposedly the sin of Adam and Eve corrupted everything. Turned herbivores into carnivores. Made venomous creatures out of non-venomous creatures. Caused deadly viruses and bacteria to start cropping up all over the globe.

But of course for that to happen, the system must have been designed with fatal flaws to begin with. The computer programmer must have put in a self-destruct sub-routine.

It is indeed fortunate that we have among us Theists who can point out the obvious evil of violent animals.

Next time my cat catches a pretty birdy and tortures it I'll be able to blame that on Adam and Eve.

Wait. Who supposedly created carnivores?

Apparently, if creationist documentaries are to be believed, God created animals whose express purpose was to kill and eat other animals just so their populations won't get out of control. Violent methods even when dealing with animals.

[sorrento]

[Replying to post 266 by ttruscott]

You wrote, "..unless the family members are also 6000 year old psychopaths under condemnation for their crimes against GOD."

How many psychopathic babies do you know?
I just hope you are not going to trot out the usual, "Ah, killing the babies and infants prevents then from becoming like their wicked parents, and being children they will go straight to heaven."

I'm sure the little ones just couldn't wait for those nice soldiers to put them to the sword and send them on the express route to La La Land!

[Tcg]

Apparently, if creationist documentaries are to be believed, God created animals whose express purpose was to kill and eat other animals just so their populations won't get out of control. Violent methods even when dealing with animals.

This is fascinating. You'd think God could run a few calculations to determine the optimal reproduction rates needed and build those into his design. But, as you say, rather than that approach, violence is used.


Tcg

[ttruscott]

[Replying to post 266 by ttruscott]

You wrote, "..unless the family members are also 6000 year old psychopaths under condemnation for their crimes against GOD."

How many psychopathic babies do you know?
I just hope you are not going to trot out the usual, "Ah, killing the babies and infants prevents then from becoming like their wicked parents, and being children they will go straight to heaven."

I'm sure the little ones just couldn't wait for those nice soldiers to put them to the sword and send them on the express route to La La Land!

I can't see how the question, the speculation about what I might say and the sarcasm add anything to my suggestions? I'd be glad to answer questions about my meaning...

[ttruscott]

Apparently, if creationist documentaries are to be believed, God created animals whose express purpose was to kill and eat other animals just so their populations won't get out of control. Violent methods even when dealing with animals.

I can't find any such creationist documentaries...could you point out some? Most I remember contend that all violence on earth reflects the sinful nature the Fall.

[sorrento]

[Replying to post 273 by ttruscott]

You wrote,"I can't see how the question, the speculation about what I might say and the sarcasm add anything to my suggestions? I'd be glad to answer questions about my meaning..."

No need, you have made yourself very clear concerning the violence of the biblical god. You have claimed that babies can be demons which justifies your god having babies slaughtered. That is Harry Potter nonsense.
The word psychopath does come to mind, and the god you believe in certainly fits the bill!

[OnceConvinced]

Apparently, if creationist documentaries are to be believed, God created animals whose express purpose was to kill and eat other animals just so their populations won't get out of control. Violent methods even when dealing with animals.

I can't find any such creationist documentaries...could you point out some? Most I remember contend that all violence on earth reflects the sinful nature the Fall.

It was some time ago now when I last watched a creationist documentary, which was given to me by a Chrisian work colleague trying to lure me back to Chrstianity. I can't recall the name of it, but it's not the first time I've heard Creationists making such claims. I'm surprised you haven't.

Have you watched many creationist nature documentaries?