“Jesus suffered and died for our sins�

[Zzyzx]

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“Jesus suffered and died for our sins�

Everyone dies sooner or later. Some are heroic. So what?

Many characters in ancient tales are said to have died heroically, what is special about Jesus?

Many people in real life suffer far more than is claimed for Jesus. Why is his suffering a big deal?

If a person in an insane asylum says they intend to become a martyr to ‘save’ everyone, are they a hero or a 'god'?

[bjs]

I did not claim to know the mind of this God. If you wish to know more about metaphysics, I recommend reading Plato and Thomas Aquinas.

I have no desire to know about imaginary beings through study of metaphysics.

Then why did you ask?

It is rare that we are in agreement regarding theological matters.

I am always glad when we can find common ground.

[Tcg]

Many people in real life suffer far more than is claimed for Jesus. Why is his suffering a big deal?

If Jesus was God, his suffering would be decreased to insignificance.

Being God, he of course didn't actually die. As much as we hear about his death, even more, we hear tales of the living Christ. According to some, he even gained a better body after his "death." He lost nothing.

Additionally, a 33 year long sojourn would be an instantaneous flash for an eternal being. Six hours of suffering, absurdly less. Time becomes impossible to calculate in view of eternity, but perhaps this can be compared to a mortal being suffering for a millisecond or two.


Tcg

[Zzyzx]

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The opening post in this thread was about the nature of Jesus’ sacrifice, not proving that Christian doctrine to be true.

Okay. Tell us all about Jesus' suffering. Did it last for HOURS? Was it equal to torture inflicted by his followers during the famous Inquisition?

[Avoice]

Sooooo.....
We can kill God. Hmmmm

Rolling my eyes

[1213]

...Many people in real life suffer far more than is claimed for Jesus. Why is his suffering a big deal?...

Please give one example of person who has suffered more and how can we know it?

I don’t think the greatness of Jesus is because of the suffering, all though I think it was very impressive and I don’t think I could have done the same.

[otseng]

Sooooo.....
We can kill God. Hmmmm
Rolling my eyes

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