JESUS IS NOT GOD

[onewithhim]

I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.


Jesus' words:

1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)

3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)

He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)

5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)

6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)

To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)



Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?

Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?

[WinkyDinky]

Peace to you,

Peace to you,

What interpretation?

Can something true contradict Christ?

Is Christ not the Truth?

Did He not say that He is the Teacher, the Leader, Shepherd, Master, Lord?

Is He not the Word of God? The Light?

Is He not the One of whom the Father said, "This is my Son, whom I have chosen. Listen to Him."



Peace again to you.

I ask the Christ, about you and I asked Him what to reply to you.
" Is not the woman, to submit and obey her husband
as if he were me? "

That's interesting. I have asked Him the same question with regard to my "Head" (and I would do whatever He said), and He reminded me that HE is my Head.

(As He is the Head of His Body, is He not?)

That being said, I also have a (human) husband. Since I am Christian, and Christians are to serve one another (and others), of course that would also mean serving my husband.

In any case, I gave no interpretation above. You had asked earlier if I had a 'pastor' over me. You asked nothing about a spouse.


Peace again to you.

If you serve your husband then you are a servant.
And a servant has to obey their master, just as a servant to sin
obeys the devil. For it is written, whosoever commits sin
is a servant to sin and whosoever commits sin is of the devil.

Now you're just all over the place.


Peace still to you.

I'd like to take this moment to expose two people that think that Christ speaks to them....OWH I know you don't think that way and your full trust is in the Bible.

So Tam and Winky why doesn't Christ say thing same things to both of you?

Why don't you ask Jesus?
Oh that's right
Jesus does not talk to you.
A book is your only source
to know anything about Him.

lol

lol

lol

Do you think Jesus talks to Tam?

No, the spirit that rules over her talks to her.
and she believes it is Jesus.

See now, I didn't even have to do anything to fight against this. It has exposed itself. As many on this forum may recall, I have made no secret of the truth that my Lord is the Chosen One of JAH, the Holy One and Son of God. But I have also made no secret of the truth that His name is not (and never was) "Jesus". It is not even the English version of His name (which would be closest as Joshua.)


I cannot, therefore, believe that is it "Jesus" talking to me.


This statement that Winky has made is straight-out false.



Peace again to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Jesus instructed me to say this to you;
If you cannot obey your husband then you certainly do not obey Jesus.
He said you are a woman of all talk and no walk.
And when put to the test you will not even talk it.

[tam]

Peace to you,

[Replying to WinkyDinky in post #1191]

Now why would I be concerned about these things you are saying to me, when you have already been shown to have said something false about me?

Might I suggest to you that not every inspired expression (or spirit) is from God. Not every inspired expression is true. That is why we are told to TEST the inspired expressions. (1John 4)

[WinkyDinky]

Peace to you,

[Replying to WinkyDinky in post #1191]

Now why would I be concerned about these things you are saying to me, when you have already been shown to have said something false about me?

Might I suggest to you that not every inspired expression (or spirit) is from God. Not every inspired expression is true. That is why we are told to TEST the inspired expressions. (1John 4)

The only thing that has been shown
is I am of God and you are not.

[onewithhim]

Peace to you,

[Replying to WinkyDinky in post #1191]

Now why would I be concerned about these things you are saying to me, when you have already been shown to have said something false about me?

Might I suggest to you that not every inspired expression (or spirit) is from God. Not every inspired expression is true. That is why we are told to TEST the inspired expressions. (1John 4)

The only thing that has been shown
is I am of God and you are not.

I am surprised that WinkyDink is still around, with all the mean casting of aspersions that he does.

[otseng]

The only thing that has been shown
is I am of God and you are not.

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[otseng]

I am surprised that WinkyDink is still around, with all the mean casting of aspersions that he does.

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[onewithhim]

It is easy to get side-tracked on these threads, and it is unfortunate that the main idea is lost. I am focused on the true God and what His purpose is for this beautiful planet and everyone living on it. That is one reason why it is important to identify just who the true God is. I thank everyone who is interested in considering just who God is. It was important to Jesus, and his own words are: [To the Father] "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3, KJV)

[onewithhim]

It is easy to get side-tracked on these threads, and it is unfortunate that the main idea is lost. I am focused on the true God and what His purpose is for this beautiful planet and everyone living on it. That is one reason why it is important to identify just who the true God is. I thank everyone who is interested in considering just who God is. It was important to Jesus, and his own words are: [To the Father] "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3, KJV)

Is there anyone who wants to look at the OP and comment on one or two or all of them? No one has yet to do that. Thank you.

[WinkyDinky]

It is easy to get side-tracked on these threads, and it is unfortunate that the main idea is lost. I am focused on the true God and what His purpose is for this beautiful planet and everyone living on it. That is one reason why it is important to identify just who the true God is. I thank everyone who is interested in considering just who God is. It was important to Jesus, and his own words are: [To the Father] "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3, KJV)

Is there anyone who wants to look at the OP and comment on one or two or all of them? No one has yet to do that. Thank you.

Jesus is my God, and I obey Him.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to WinkyDinky in post #1199]

It's kind of sad that you are wasting all your time posting about Jesus being God, and yet you won't comment on any of the points in the Original Post.