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More crimes by paedophile priests

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50165998

I don't know how anyone can be a devout catholic these days, considering how many terrible crimes have been committed in the name of that dogma, and covered up by the Vatican! Shocked A few ridiculous hail mary's isn't going to absolve them of their crimes!

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WHERE in the Bible is this called out as a sin or Commandment?
We have the 10.
We have proscriptions against mixing clothes.
We have one on using only unblemished people and animals for sacrifice.
On what animals are clean and unclean.
On what animals you may touch.
Not to serve anyone whom an idol is made...

Actually, there are 613 of them.

Nowhere is paedophilia mentioned in them.

It isn't a sin unto God.
Does this answer your question?

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In which case the god character, should it exist, is even worse than I thought.

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 5: Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm
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Willum: Nowhere is paedophilia mentioned in them.

It isn't a sin unto God.
Does this answer your question?


JJ50: In which case the god character, should it exist, is even worse than I thought.

William: One can deduce a lot about another, by the Characters they choose to create in their contributions to the stories they choose to tell.

That in itself does not mean that if a Creator-God exists, it is like unto the character of those who wrote about their own idea of a Creator God and proclaimed that as 'The Truth'.

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[Replying to post 5 by William]

For clarity:
So you are saying the writers of the Bible endorse pedophilia and their God is false, but that an unknown real God who didn't write anything either way, MIGHT be uncomfortable with pedophilia?

Just getting my report button ready...

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Re: More crimes by paedophile priests

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JJ50 wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50165998

I don't know how anyone can be a devout catholic these days, considering how many terrible crimes have been committed in the name of that dogma, and covered up by the Vatican! Shocked A few ridiculous hail mary's isn't going to absolve them of their crimes!


It's a lifestyle choice. People choose what to believe, what not to believe and what to ignore.
It happens in many (all?) religions.
It's quite easy to understand in that regard.
How easy it is to the fact that people know what's going on and ignore it, that's something different entirely.

But it happens to all sorts of religious organizations:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/03/the-secret-jehovahs-witness-d...

http://aawa.co/jw-crime-map/

https://www.courierpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/jon-webb/2019/06/17/jehova...

https://apnews.com/JehovahsWitnesses

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/Southern-Baptist-se...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/us/southern-baptist-abuse/index.html

https://www.deseret.com/2019/1/12/20663159/the-fbi-has-been-tracking-crimes-agai...

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 8: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:46 pm
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Willum wrote:

WHERE in the Bible is this called out as a sin or Commandment?


Off the top of my head I would say Leviticus simply because what most of those priests are doing is still homosexuality.

It's my understanding that most of them are not after little girls.

So yes, it's prohibited by the Bible.

It's just not enforced.

Nor could it possibly be enforced because this is just what happens when some people are placed above others in morality.

I'm not saying they don't belong in those positions of moral privilege, nor am I saying that moral privilege is wrong, nor am I attempting to conclude whether moral privilege covers the rape of children or not.

I in fact agree with the idea of moral privilege: The idea that some people are more moral than others, and that because of this, more actions are permissible for them.

I just don't know what it covers and what it doesn't. Neither does anyone else. Neither can anyone else. It is impossible for the lower to understand the morality of the higher.

I can't simply look through another lens and see that something wrong for me would be right if I were that other person, though it's reasonable to assume the higher can easily look down and understand the morality of the lower.

But since the lower can't look through a higher lens than they possess, it is simply a fact of life that we're going to have those in positions of authority using their moral privilege to rape children. We can't say whether their moral privilege allows them to do so or not. We can only know that if we did it, it would be wrong.

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 9: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:53 pm
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JJ50 wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50165998

I don't know how anyone can be a devout catholic these days, considering how many terrible crimes have been committed in the name of that dogma, and covered up by the Vatican! Shocked A few ridiculous hail mary's isn't going to absolve them of their crimes!


People pick and choose what belief best suits their chosen lifestyle. Then, once picked, they pick and choose what of that belief that believe and what they ignore.
And some times, these believers like aspects of their belief system that they other despise.
If priests can hide their proclivities behind such a lifestyle choice, why can't the followers of that belief?
It's really not that hard to understand on basic level.

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