Is it not possible that people created God? It seems rather easy given the course of time that people would have created God.
This and the fact that people have created a myriad of gods (some supreme deities and some objects).
So is it not possible people created God?
Is it not probably that people created God?
Or is there irrefutable proof that God is real that can be provided here for all to see and set the idea of 'people creating God' to bed?
If God wouldn't have existed
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Re: If God wouldn't have existed
Post #2The answer to the question "Would people create God," is YES!Menotu wrote: Is it not possible that people created God? It seems rather easy given the course of time that people would have created God.
This and the fact that people have created a myriad of gods (some supreme deities and some objects).
So is it not possible people created God?
Is it not probably that people created God?
Or is there irrefutable proof that God is real that can be provided here for all to see and set the idea of 'people creating God' to bed?
Throughout recorded history, we can count anywhere from 8,000–12,000 gods who have been worshiped. But we can only count around 9 different types of gods (based on theological characteristics) that have been worshiped. Every modern god also fits into one of these types, and 5 of them are Hindu types.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+man ... e&ie=UTF-8
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Re: If God wouldn't have existed
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People, as we currently are, would almost certainly create a god if there were not one.
This raises the question of why we are the way we currently are.
Are we this way purely by chance, and we could just as have easily evolved in a different way – a way that does not seek God?
Or dose the fact that people universally seek God in some form reveal that there is a God who has designed us with the desire to know Him?
I know of no irrefutable proof that people created God or that God created people. We are left only with probability and likelihood. Hence debate continues.
People, as we currently are, would almost certainly create a god if there were not one.
This raises the question of why we are the way we currently are.
Are we this way purely by chance, and we could just as have easily evolved in a different way – a way that does not seek God?
Or dose the fact that people universally seek God in some form reveal that there is a God who has designed us with the desire to know Him?
I know of no irrefutable proof that people created God or that God created people. We are left only with probability and likelihood. Hence debate continues.
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Post #4Some of us have evolved in a way that does not seek God.bjs wrote:
Are we this way purely by chance, and we could just as have easily evolved in a different way – a way that does not seek God?
People don't universally seek God and this is not a new phenomenon:
Or dose the fact that people universally seek God in some form reveal that there is a God who has designed us with the desire to know Him?
- Atheism has ancient roots and is not ‘modern invention’, claims new text
Atheism is not a modern invention from the western Enlightenment, but actually dates back to the ancient world, according to a new book by a Cambridge academic – which challenges the assumption that humanity is naturally predisposed to believe in gods.
In Battling the Gods, Tim Whitmarsh, professor of Greek culture at Cambridge University, lays out a series of examples showing that atheism existed in polytheistic ancient Greece. It is, according to its author, partly “an attempt to excavate ancient atheism from underneath the rubble heaped on it by millennia of Christian opprobrium�.
Whitmarsh, a fellow of St John’s College, believes that the growing trend towards seeing religion as “hardwired� into humans is deeply worrying. “I am trying to destabilise this notion, which seems to be gaining hold all the time, that there is something fundamental to humanity about [religious] belief,� he told the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/ ... -new-study
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Post #5[Replying to post 4 by Tcg]
We can also of course look to current facts to observe that people don't universally seek God:
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We can also of course look to current facts to observe that people don't universally seek God:
- Losing their religion? These are the world’s most atheistic countries
China is the world’s least religious country, according to a survey by WIN/Gallup International. Only 9% of the country considers itself religious, while 67% claims to be atheist - more than twice the amount of any other country.
Sweden, the Czech Republic and the UK are the next least religious countries. In Sweden, 18% of people define themselves as atheist and 55% as non-religious, while the Czech Republic is 25% atheist and 47% non-religious. In the UK, 11% of people claim to be atheist and 58% non-religious.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/07/ ... countries/
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As a species we universally seek God. Belief in a God of some kind is virtually the only constant that is not biologically necessary for the survival of the species and yet found in every known civilization throughout history and across the globe.
As a species we universally seek God. Belief in a God of some kind is virtually the only constant that is not biologically necessary for the survival of the species and yet found in every known civilization throughout history and across the globe.
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If one doesn't know that a virus causes the present world crisis, they can 'explain' it to themselves and others as the action of invisible, undetectable 'gods' or 'demons'.
Some apparently still attribute the pandemic to 'god'. Maybe they can pray themselves well (or request that 'god' take out its anger on others).
Likewise, when information is lacking (or ignored), gods are evoked to 'explain' storms, droughts, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. Some of the world's population have reason to be ignorant -- others less so.
It might be better said that humans invent 'gods' to cover their own ignorance.bjs wrote: As a species we universally seek God.
If one doesn't know that a virus causes the present world crisis, they can 'explain' it to themselves and others as the action of invisible, undetectable 'gods' or 'demons'.
Some apparently still attribute the pandemic to 'god'. Maybe they can pray themselves well (or request that 'god' take out its anger on others).
Likewise, when information is lacking (or ignored), gods are evoked to 'explain' storms, droughts, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. Some of the world's population have reason to be ignorant -- others less so.
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Re: If God wouldn't have existed
Post #8No, as a species we universally fear snakes and things that go bump in the night.bjs wrote:As a species we universally seek God.
You've turned the whole thing into question-begging. Humans are seemingly wired to see agency where it otherwise doesn't exist and that often leads to animism. Some cultures simply take being wrong a little further and start to see a god. Not everything animistic is a god, though, or even supernatural. That's just our cultural bias being projected onto others.bjs wrote:Belief in a God of some kind is virtually the only constant that is not biologically necessary for the survival of the species and yet found in every known civilization throughout history and across the globe.
Humans don't have God-sized holes in their hearts, but tiger-in-the-bushes-sized ones.
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Post #10Can you prove people have created gods? Please show one example of a god that is created by humans.Menotu wrote: …This and the fact that people have created a myriad of gods (some supreme deities and some objects)…