What is ' consciousness ' ?

[Thomas123]

This word appears to be at the centre of many discussions on this forum. It also appears to mean different things to different people and, therein lies the root of our miscommunication. What range and definement do you attribute to, ' consciousness ' ?

Is there an external consciousness in the world?. Can I tune into a shared consciousness. I am listening to Prime Minister's Question Time, ....is Boris tuned into a universal human consciousness as he delivers his address. Is his brain working ,simultaneously and in tandem with my own consciousness and with that of others?

[JoeyKnothead]

So tools have no social costs? they only have social benefits, is that what you are claiming?

When you're willing to offer me the courtesy of answering the questions I put to you, I'll be happy to answer the ones you put to me.

[Inquirer]

So tools have no social costs? they only have social benefits, is that what you are claiming?

When you're willing to offer me the courtesy of answering the questions I put to you, I'll be happy to answer the ones you put to me.

Courtesy has become a scarce thing recently.

[JoeyKnothead]

So tools have no social costs? they only have social benefits, is that what you are claiming?

When you're willing to offer me the courtesy of answering the questions I put to you, I'll be happy to answer the ones you put to me.

Courtesy has become a scarce thing recently.

Funny thing about courtesy - the more ya give it, the more yet get.

I find it quite interesting though that among some theists, there's questions they absolutely refuse to answer. In debate. Ya'd think proponents of Truth(tm) would be happy to tell it.

[Inquirer]

So tools have no social costs? they only have social benefits, is that what you are claiming?

When you're willing to offer me the courtesy of answering the questions I put to you, I'll be happy to answer the ones you put to me.

Courtesy has become a scarce thing recently.

Funny thing about courtesy - the more ya give it, the more yet get.

I find it quite interesting though that among some theists, there's questions they absolutely refuse to answer. In debate. Ya'd think proponents of Truth(tm) would be happy to tell it.

That reminds me, what do you mean by "Truth"? you never did extend me the courtesy of answering that one did ya...

[JoeyKnothead]

That reminds me, what do you mean by "Truth"? you never did extend me the courtesy of answering that one did ya...

For them unaware...

In another thread Inquirer asked another member if they thought biblical claims regarding the resurrection of Jesus were a myth.

So I asked Inquirer if he thought those claims were truth.

When told by Inquirer there were different kinds of truth, and asked which kind I was asking about, I, not knowing which kind of truth Inqurer might apply to his answer, left that decision up to him.

So let's see where courtesy sits....

Inquirer..

Do you believe biblical tales regarding the resurrection of Jesus are truth?

[Inquirer]

That reminds me, what do you mean by "Truth"? you never did extend me the courtesy of answering that one did ya...

For them unaware...

In another thread Inquirer asked another member if they thought biblical claims regarding the resurrection of Jesus were a myth.

So I asked Inquirer if he thought those claims were truth.

When told by Inquirer there were different kinds of truth, and asked which kind I was asking about, I, not knowing which kind of truth Inqurer might apply to his answer, left that decision up to him.

So let's see where courtesy sits....

Inquirer..

Do you believe biblical tales regarding the resurrection of Jesus are truth?

Depends on what one means by truth, there ya go, that's the answer you keep claiming I haven't given to you.

Other examples:

"Is you car fast? That depends on what you mean by fast"

"Is a thousand bucks lots of money? That depends on what you mean by lots"

"Is this a debate? depends on how patient you are"

[JoeyKnothead]

That reminds me, what do you mean by "Truth"? you never did extend me the courtesy of answering that one did ya...

For them unaware...

In another thread Inquirer asked another member if they thought biblical claims regarding the resurrection of Jesus were a myth.

So I asked Inquirer if he thought those claims were truth.

When told by Inquirer there were different kinds of truth, and asked which kind I was asking about, I, not knowing which kind of truth Inqurer might apply to his answer, left that decision up to him.

So let's see where courtesy sits....

Inquirer..

Do you believe biblical tales regarding the resurrection of Jesus are truth?

Depends on what one means by truth, there ya go, that's the answer you keep claiming I haven't given to you.

Other examples:

"Is you car fast? That depends on what you mean by fast"

"Is a thousand bucks lots of money? That depends on what you mean by lots"

"Is this a debate? depends on how patient you are"

lol

Still just can't muster it up.

Notice, I have no way of knowing what kind of truth to expect here. Well except for the lacking kind.

[Inquirer]

That reminds me, what do you mean by "Truth"? you never did extend me the courtesy of answering that one did ya...

For them unaware...

In another thread Inquirer asked another member if they thought biblical claims regarding the resurrection of Jesus were a myth.

So I asked Inquirer if he thought those claims were truth.

When told by Inquirer there were different kinds of truth, and asked which kind I was asking about, I, not knowing which kind of truth Inqurer might apply to his answer, left that decision up to him.

So let's see where courtesy sits....

Inquirer..

Do you believe biblical tales regarding the resurrection of Jesus are truth?

Depends on what one means by truth, there ya go, that's the answer you keep claiming I haven't given to you.

Other examples:

"Is you car fast? That depends on what you mean by fast"

"Is a thousand bucks lots of money? That depends on what you mean by lots"

"Is this a debate? depends on how patient you are"

lol

Still just can't muster it up.

Notice, I have no way of knowing what kind of truth to expect here. Well except for the lacking kind.

I'm going to conclude at this point, that you are not sufficiently interested in the questions that arise from a study of the New Testament, to make an effort to explain what you seek. If you were truly interested I'd expect you to readily explain what you mean by "truth" so we could proceed with the discussion. You clearly do not want to tell me, so I suspect you fear this is a question intended to trap you, which is a shame because this is not my intention at all.

Perhaps we'll come back to this at a future time, when you're ready to move forward with this subject.

[JoeyKnothead]

If you were truly interested I'd expect you to readily explain what you mean by "truth" so we could proceed with the discussion.

Implies I'm being disingenuous for having me the temerity to ask a question.

REPEATEDLY!

You clearly do not want to tell me, so I suspect you fear this is a question intended to trap you, which is a shame because this is not my intention at all.

I have no means of knowing what form of 'truth' might be in an answer you refuse to provide.

Perhaps we'll come back to this at a future time, when you're ready to move forward with this subject.

It'll hafta be in the future, cause all you can do is present excuses (and accusations) on how come it is, you can't answer now.

But I do preciate you offering the obser er ample opportunity to see promoters of Truth(tm) are so often reticent to examine that Truth(tm).

[Diogenes]

Depends on what one means by truth, there ya go, that's the answer you keep claiming I haven't given to you.

Why is that such a difficult question for you. Truth is when words correspond to reality. Examples of non truth:
Dead people reanimating and floating up to a mythical place that has been proved wrong by photos of the Earth from the moon.