Should morality be taught in schools?

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Should morality be taught in schools?

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"Polls indicate that about 70 percent of public school parents want schools to teach “strict standards of right and wrong,” and 85 percent want schools to teach values. And research suggests that many overworked, frayed parents, doubting their capacities as moral mentors, are looking to schools to take on a larger role in their children’s moral growth."
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Miles wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:08 pm .



"Polls indicate that about 70 percent of public school parents want schools to teach “strict standards of right and wrong,” and 85 percent want schools to teach values. And research suggests that many overworked, frayed parents, doubting their capacities as moral mentors, are looking to schools to take on a larger role in their children’s moral growth."
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God no!
I don't want someone teaching my kids their morality! I don't know of any good parent that would.


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Miles wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:08 pmAnd if so, whose morality?
There's an old expression...

If you can't cook, you'll eat whatever you're served. If you don't like that, learn to cook.

The morality being taught in schools is better than the regressive caveman morality their parents could ever teach them anyway.

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Like other issues that need to be explained to children, such as those concerning sex, I don't believe all parents want to or are equipped to teach their children morals. So lacking such parental instruction I believe morals should be taught in schools, and probably in grade school and then again in high school.

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Whose morality?
What about starting with the Democratic laws and regulations, adding of course, the Human Rights (UDHR)? I don't think they hurt anyone.
That is, they can use the current laws and regulations of the state where the school is located. Good? :)
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Aetixintro wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:06 pm [Replying to Miles in post #1]
Whose morality?
What about starting with the Democratic laws and regulations, adding of course, the Human Rights (UDHR)? I don't think they hurt anyone.
That is, they can use the current laws and regulations of the state where the school is located. Good? :)
My feeling is that it is not morality that need be taught in schools, but ethics. That way, parents retain the right to inflict their moralities on their children, as do churches. But ethics, as a rigorous part of philosophy, encourage children to think such matters through for themselves, and arrive at their own conclusions.

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Miles wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:08 pm .



"Polls indicate that about 70 percent of public school parents want schools to teach “strict standards of right and wrong,” and 85 percent want schools to teach values. And research suggests that many overworked, frayed parents, doubting their capacities as moral mentors, are looking to schools to take on a larger role in their children’s moral growth."
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I have to agree with 2ndRateMind (post 6). While ethics and morality have overlapping principles, ethics stands on its own legs apart from any particular moral religiosity. I think it is badly needed at every level of education, but especially for children and young teens.

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amortalman wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:07 pm
Miles wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:08 pm .



"Polls indicate that about 70 percent of public school parents want schools to teach “strict standards of right and wrong,” and 85 percent want schools to teach values. And research suggests that many overworked, frayed parents, doubting their capacities as moral mentors, are looking to schools to take on a larger role in their children’s moral growth."
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I have to agree with 2ndRateMind (post 6). While ethics and morality have overlapping principles, ethics stands on its own legs apart from any particular moral religiosity. I think it is badly needed at every level of education, but especially for children and young teens.
A little confused here. How does ethics actually differ from morality in that it "stands on its own legs apart from any particular moral religiosity"? And just what is moral religiosity anyway?


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Miles wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:21 pm
amortalman wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:07 pm
Miles wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:08 pm .



"Polls indicate that about 70 percent of public school parents want schools to teach “strict standards of right and wrong,” and 85 percent want schools to teach values. And research suggests that many overworked, frayed parents, doubting their capacities as moral mentors, are looking to schools to take on a larger role in their children’s moral growth."
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I have to agree with 2ndRateMind (post 6). While ethics and morality have overlapping principles, ethics stands on its own legs apart from any particular moral religiosity. I think it is badly needed at every level of education, but especially for children and young teens.
A little confused here. How does ethics actually differ from morality in that it "stands on its own legs apart from any particular moral religiosity"? And just what is moral religiosity anyway?


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I should say (not to steal amortalman's thunder) that ethics is one of life's hard questions, in that we not only have no answers, but also do not even know how to get at those answers. As a result, many cling to religious moralities for the seeming certainty they offer. For me, at any rate, that is a bad idea. It is surely better to admit whereof one is ignorant, than pretend to answers that do not withstand academic scrutiny.

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2ndRateMind wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:41 pm
Miles wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:21 pm
amortalman wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:07 pm
Miles wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:08 pm .



"Polls indicate that about 70 percent of public school parents want schools to teach “strict standards of right and wrong,” and 85 percent want schools to teach values. And research suggests that many overworked, frayed parents, doubting their capacities as moral mentors, are looking to schools to take on a larger role in their children’s moral growth."
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I have to agree with 2ndRateMind (post 6). While ethics and morality have overlapping principles, ethics stands on its own legs apart from any particular moral religiosity. I think it is badly needed at every level of education, but especially for children and young teens.
A little confused here. How does ethics actually differ from morality in that it "stands on its own legs apart from any particular moral religiosity"? And just what is moral religiosity anyway?


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I should say (not to steal amortalman's thunder) that ethics is one of life's hard questions, in that we not only have no answers, but also do not even know how to get at those answers.
Whaaa? We have and use words that are not only not defined, but cannot be defined? Give me a break.

Okay, ya sent me looking. Here ya are, and form the Encyclopedia Britannica no less.

"What’s the Difference Between Morality and Ethics?

Generally, the terms ethics and morality are used interchangeably, although a few different communities (academic, legal, or religious, for example) will occasionally make a distinction. In fact, Britannica’s article on ethics considers the terms to be the same as moral philosophy. While understanding that most ethicists (that is, philosophers who study ethics) consider the terms interchangeable, let’s go ahead and dive into these distinctions.

Both morality and ethics loosely have to do with distinguishing the difference between “good and bad” or “right and wrong.” Many people think of morality as something that’s personal and normative, whereas ethics is the standards of “good and bad” distinguished by a certain community or social setting. For example, your local community may think adultery is immoral, and you personally may agree with that. However, the distinction can be useful if your local community has no strong feelings about adultery, but you consider adultery immoral on a personal level. By these definitions of the terms, your morality would contradict the ethics of your community. In popular discourse, however, we’ll often use the terms moral and immoral when talking about issues like adultery regardless of whether it’s being discussed in a personal or in a community-based situation. As you can see, the distinction can get a bit tricky."

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