The Bible states:
"A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death."
Is this law still binding for anyone today? If so, are such laws ever being carried out?
Or, is it no longer binding for anyone? And if not, why is it no longer binding? And furthermore, if it is no longer binding for anyone, who's to say God's law will not change again someday?
Do God's Morals Change?
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Post #31No. Was it morally permissible to burn to death female fornicators, (as this law was directed to), in the Torah?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:07 pm
During this era/situation? ... in our modern 21st century age? No I do not morally permissible to burn fornicators to death.
Why was it okay to burn female fornicators then; under Mosaic law?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:07 pmI cannot "demonstrate" why, I can tell you why I believe such punishment would be wrong now .. ..Namely because the time (and circumstances ) for such punishment has passed. I believe we are no longer under Mosaic law.
Thus, you agree with God, that during the time of Mosaic law, and under such criteria, it was justifiable to burn the female to death, for fornication?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:07 pmif you are asking why I can consider such a punishment fitting, the answer is because fornication is wrong and causes suffering. It is entirely avoidable, so if someone chooses to defy Gods law it is in my opinion entirely fitting they face the consequences of their actions.
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Post #32I would agree. But apparently, "God" does not.AgnosticBoy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:08 pm All I can say is based on my cultural upbringing, killing over fornication would be excessive.
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Post #33Yes, absolutely, 100% yes.
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Post #34Why?
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Post #35I already answered that question ... why I can consider such a punishment fitting? the answer is because I believe fornication is wrong and causes suffering. It is entirely avoidable, so if someone chooses to defy Gods law it is in my opinion entirely fitting they face the consequences of their actions.POI wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:45 pmWhy?
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Post #36Kool.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:49 pmI already answered that question ... why I can consider such a punishment fitting? the answer is because I believe fornication is wrong and causes suffering. It is entirely avoidable, so if someone chooses to defy Gods law it is in my opinion entirely fitting they face the consequences of their actions.POI wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:45 pmWhy?
If you were under this law, and you were a priest, and found that your daughter had committed fornication; would you light the match, or ask someone else to do it?
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Post #37The law demanded that with the death penalty the chief accuser cast the first stone (some bible scholars believe the condemned was first stoned and the body burnt). I hope that I would have obeyed this edict.
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Post #38Kool.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:21 pmThe law demanded that with the death penalty the chief accuser cast the first stone (some bible scholars believe the condemned was first stoned and the body burnt). I hope that I would have obeyed this edict.
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I would imagine the 'chief accuser' could/would be the priest himself, right? I guess this means that, under Mosaic law, YOU (the priest) are to cast the first stone. I assume you are perfectly 100% good with this, right?
"Moral alert"... Do you look for a very large rock, to place her out of her misery sooner? Or, do you find the smallest one, because you want her to suffer more - (as a more suitable punishment for her sin)?
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Post #39And people engaging in fornication are so evil according to 1213 that the best thing to do is burn them to death. Gobsmacked!
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Re: Do God's Morals Change?
Post #40Sometimes I feel so very thankful that I am an atheist.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:21 pmThe law demanded that with the death penalty the chief accuser cast the first stone (some bible scholars believe the condemned was first stoned and the body burnt). I hope that I would have obeyed this edict.
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