Alright, Jehovah Exists - Why Worship Him?

[Purple Knight]

Let's assume the God of the Bible exists. Taking aside that he has named himself God, why is he God?

What makes an entity God?

And if this entity exists, why worship him?

[Diogenes]

And if this entity exists, why worship him?

I assume you mean aside from being tortured if you don't? That's a pretty compelling reason to worship anything.

This rationale supports worshiping any tyrant, from Hitler to Stalin. 'Worship' at the threat of the gun is not worship. It is cowardice.

[JehovahsWitness]

Yes. If evil is the total lack of good, no matter what the circumstance, an evil person will chose to do bad because he LOVES what is wicked.

But motive counts, yes? For example, I might find a racist willing to dive on the Stauffenberg bomb that almost killed Hitler. Still evil, right? If so, what the evil person cannot do is choose good in his heart. Out in reality he might do anything as long as the motive was wickedness.

You are being a bit free and easy with your classifications here, only God can pronounce a person evil, we do well, to recognize evil acts do not an evil person make. Racism is bad, even evil perhaps, but a person can be racist without being evil.



JW

[Purple Knight]

You are being a bit free and easy with your classifications here, only God can pronounce a person evil, we do well, to recognize evil acts do not an evil person make. Racism is bad, even evil perhaps, but a person can be racist without being evil.

I get that you can't make that pronouncement. But for the purposes of my question about motive, would it be accurate that when you envision this hypothetical racist who dives on a bomb to save Hitler, you envision someone whose racism may be evil, but he still has enough good in him so that, unlike the Devil, this act of self-sacrifice, although misguided, may come from a decent place within him, one which the Devil simply doesn't have?

[Diagoras]

Racism is bad, even evil perhaps, but a person can be racist without being evil.

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

To take one example, God here appears to be treating a particular tribe (broadly synonymous with race for purposes of debate here) in a manner which we in the present day would condone as extremely racist.

Even ‘evil’, perhaps? Regardless, it doesn’t seem proper to worship anything that carries on like this.

[JehovahsWitness]

You are being a bit free and easy with your classifications here, only God can pronounce a person evil, we do well, to recognize evil acts do not an evil person make. Racism is bad, even evil perhaps, but a person can be racist without being evil.

I get that you can't make that pronouncement. But for the purposes of my question about motive, would it be accurate that when you envision this hypothetical racist who dives on a bomb to save Hitler, you envision someone whose racism may be evil, but he still has enough good in him so that, unlike the Devil, this act of self-sacrifice, although misguided, may come from a decent place within him, one which the Devil simply doesn't have?

Exactly, what someone might call "evil"might have some redeeming qualities - so only The One that reads the heart can make such a call. With Satan God has made the call, there is nothing good in him (satan).

[JehovahsWitness]

Racism is bad, even evil perhaps, but a person can be racist without being evil.

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

To take one example, God here appears to be treating a particular tribe (broadly synonymous with race for purposes of debate here) in a manner which we in the present day would condone as extremely racist.

Why? Why would you conclude the above was evidence of racism?

[Diogenes]

You are being a bit free and easy with your classifications here, only God can pronounce a person evil, we do well, to recognize evil acts do not an evil person make. Racism is bad, even evil perhaps, but a person can be racist without being evil.

This is the kind of codswallop that comes from the hubris that, perhaps, only comes from blind certitude of belief, a smug pride that overrules dictionaries and all reference sources.
"Evil:
Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful.
Something that is a cause or source of suffering, injury, or destruction.
That which causes harm, misfortune, or destruction.
Characterized by anger or spite; malicious.
Anything that causes harm, pain, misery, disaster, etc."

Racism qualifies as evil.
"God" is merely an assumption, an opinion, a bag of hot air.

[The Nice Centurion]

Racism qualifies as evil.

Race Conciousness seems to be natural, because all people throughout history felt it. The bible and the Book of Mormon prove that.
Of course this Holy books teach race consciousness! How in the world should any god or people feel legitimized to commit genocides without Race Consciosness ?

"God" is merely an assumption, an opinion, a bag of hot air.

Oh bother!

With Satan God has made the call, there is nothing good in him (satan).

Because Satan shows that little race consciousness that he never commanded genocides? And too restained from most crimes "god" liked to commit and to command.
That evil Satan! If he caught "god" lustly looking at kid porn, he should burn in hell, cause that way he cannot tell !

[amortalman]

Let's assume the God of the Bible exists. Taking aside that he has named himself God, why is he God?

What makes an entity God?

And if this entity exists, why worship him?

If the God of the Bible does exist - an eternal entity who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent - I would bow down and worship him willingly. One would be a fool not to. But no good evidence supports such a being.

[Diagoras]

Why? Why would you conclude the above was evidence of racism?

It fits the definition:

racism (n)
“prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.”

Now, you claim ‘racism is bad’, so is God being bad when he exhibits antagonism toward a particular ethnic group?