It was once said to be a sin to get divorced (some sect may still see it this way as some don't).
It was once said that marriage is a 'special' contract, blessed by god (some may not see it that way any longer).
For discussion:
How does your faith deal with marriage and divorce?
Does it hold marriage in high standard yet allow divorce? If marriage is 'special', can it only be preformed by a priest? If it allows divorce, under what circumstances? And why?
Does it hold marriage in a high standard and frown on (or prohibit) divorce?
Does it not care much about either, marriage or divorce?
What's your opinion about the secular marriage and divorce today?
A lot of questions that could be dealt with in individual threads, so feel free to initialize which discussion point(s) you wish, but keep in mind others may ask your POV on a point on which you didn't initially address - which is totally fair and even expected.
Marriage and divorce in christianity
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #2nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:45 am For discussion:
How does your faith deal with marriage and divorce?
In the Jehovahs Witness religion:
Does it hold marriage in high standard yet allow divorce? yes.
If it allows divorce, under what circumstances? Adultery is considered the only grounds for divorce because that is the bible standard for Christians.
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #3Physical violence doesn't qualify for divorce, then. Isn't that just as bad (some would say worse) than adultery? Yet that's not grounds for divorce.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:17 pmnobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:45 am
For discussion:
How does your faith deal with marriage and divorce?
In the Jehovahs Witness religion:
Does it hold marriage in high standard yet allow divorce? yes.
If it allows divorce, under what circumstances? Adultery is considered the only grounds for divorce because that is the bible standard for Christians.
Does not being 'grounds' for divorce mean it's not allowed, or it's frowned upon?
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #4Jesus said in the Bible:nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:45 am ...
How does your faith deal with marriage and divorce?
Does it hold marriage in high standard yet allow divorce? If marriage is 'special', can it only be preformed by a priest? If it allows divorce, under what circumstances? And why?
Does it hold marriage in a high standard and frown on (or prohibit) divorce?
Does it not care much about either, marriage or divorce?
What's your opinion about the secular marriage and divorce today?
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‘For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall join to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh?’ So that they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, don’t let man tear apart.” They asked him, “Why then did Moses command us to give her a bill of divorce, and divorce her?” He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it has not been so. I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and he who marries her when she is divorced commits adultery.”
Matt. 19:5-6
I think Jesus is correct, it would be better not to divorce. And I think think when man and woman have had sex, they are married in all cases, even secular people. And also in their case I think it would be best not to divorce.
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #5nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:45 pmPhysical violence doesn't qualify for divorce, then. ...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:17 pmnobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:45 am
For discussion:
How does your faith deal with marriage and divorce?
In the Jehovahs Witness religion:
Does it hold marriage in high standard yet allow divorce? yes.
If it allows divorce, under what circumstances? Adultery is considered the only grounds for divorce because that is the bible standard for Christians.
No, scripturally, sexual immorality is the only legitimate grounds for divorce.
MATTHEW 5: :32 - New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition)
32 However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of sexual immorality, makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:45 pm
Does not being 'grounds' for divorce mean it's not allowed, or it's frowned upon?
Unscriptural divorces are "frowned upon"; unrepentent adulterers are "not allowed" as in expelled from the congregation.
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #6And how do JWs establish that sexual immortality within a marriage has occurred? Do they use the same absurd standard that two witnesses step forward and witness of the event? You know in the same way that they require two witnesses step forward in the event of pedophilia when it occurs within the ranks of the JWs?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:35 pm
No, scripturally, sexual immorality is the only legitimate grounds for divorce.
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #7Tcg wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:32 amAnd how do JWs establish that sexual immortality within a marriage has occurred?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:35 pm
No, scripturally, sexual immorality is the only legitimate grounds for divorce.
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Adultery has its way of coming to light in time. People might confess their actions when accussed or their actions become apparent, for example the third party speaks up or some other event that gives those in a position of judgement the information they need for example, as Jesus indicated, a remariage:
MATTHEW 5: :32 - New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition)
32 However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of sexual immorality, makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Yes. All ecclesiastical judgements within our religion adhere to the biblical principle that nobody can be convinced on the testimony of a single accusation.
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #8In as much as oral and anal sex, and perhaps even bestiality do not rise to the level of adultery, are they therefore not immoral?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:35 pmnobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:45 pmPhysical violence doesn't qualify for divorce, then. ...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:17 pmnobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:45 am
For discussion:
How does your faith deal with marriage and divorce?
In the Jehovahs Witness religion:
Does it hold marriage in high standard yet allow divorce? yes.
If it allows divorce, under what circumstances? Adultery is considered the only grounds for divorce because that is the bible standard for Christians.
No, scripturally, sexual immorality is the only legitimate grounds for divorce.
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #9Bestiality is considered by us as a form of "sexual immorality" and scriptural grounds for divorce. That said, not all "immoralities" are grounds for divorce. We believe if a married couple both consent to engage in certain sexual activities then that is their personal business and it would be for God alone to judge.
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Re: Marriage and divorce in christianity
Post #10[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #5]
Yes scripturally I can understand that POV to a degree. Does the congregation support one that's physically abused to get a divorce?No, scripturally, sexual immorality is the only legitimate grounds for divorce.
Define 'unrepentent' as used in this contextunrepentent adulterers are "not allowed" as in expelled from the congregation.
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