So, there are women who book a man to come to their home and massage them while alone! Then are horrified when assaulted. BBC News is covering several reports of serious sexual assaults in cases like these.
This to me seems the same as leaving your home doors and windows open, then being amazed when things are stolen while you are out or asleep.
Am I missing something here? I had no idea a woman would ever book a man to do this at all, let alone in her own home. At least have a friend with you, if you really cannot live without a massage. Or best of all, go to a beauticians, book only women for women for such an intimate thing.
Call me old fashioned if you like but I am of a generation where common sense was employed.
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Post #2Are all victims guilty of all the crimes committed against them or only some of the crimes?Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:32 pm So, there are women who book a man to come to their home and massage them while alone! Then are horrified when assaulted. BBC News is covering several reports of serious sexual assaults in cases like these.
This to me seems the same as leaving your home doors and windows open, then being amazed when things are stolen while you are out or asleep.
Am I missing something here? I had no idea a woman would ever book a man to do this at all, let alone in her own home. At least have a friend with you, if you really cannot live without a massage. Or best of all, go to a beauticians, book only women for women for such an intimate thing.
Call me old fashioned if you like but I am of a generation where common sense was employed.
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Post #3[Replying to Tcg in post #2] no
Crime is crime, it will happen. But no need to help it along and leave yourself open to it. Use the brain God gave you.
Crime is crime, it will happen. But no need to help it along and leave yourself open to it. Use the brain God gave you.
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Post #4When did God pass out brains?Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:13 pm [Replying to Tcg in post #2] no
Crime is crime, it will happen. But no need to help it along and leave yourself open to it. Use the brain God gave you.
Skipping that irrelevance, leaving your house unlocked is not the same as hiring someone to come to one's house to perform a service. Folks do so quite regularly. HVAC technicians. Plumbers. Exterminators. Painters. Appliance installers. Doing so is not asking to be victimized.
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Post #6[Replying to Tcg in post #4]
Not many jobs involve being undressed alone with a stranger. I've never heard of such a fool thing.
Not many jobs involve being undressed alone with a stranger. I've never heard of such a fool thing.
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Post #7So, this explains why you are surprised that, "Then are horrified when assaulted." Do we deserve to be assaulted if we disrobe for a doctor's examination or before surgery? I'd expect anyone to be horrified if they are assaulted no matter where it happens. Unless of course they themselves think that they as the victim are responsible for the crime. Are you suggesting that is the case in these incidents?Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:31 pm [Replying to Tcg in post #4]
Not many jobs involve being undressed alone with a stranger. I've never heard of such a fool thing.
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Post #8[Replying to Tcg in post #7]
No. It is a crime and the fault is the criminal's. Yet if it happens, there would be no proof, so no real chance of punishment in law. Also, the male masseur is open to false accusations.
There are degrees of danger we all should think about. I'm sure you wouldn't suggest we take no precautions to prevent bad things happening.
No. It is a crime and the fault is the criminal's. Yet if it happens, there would be no proof, so no real chance of punishment in law. Also, the male masseur is open to false accusations.
There are degrees of danger we all should think about. I'm sure you wouldn't suggest we take no precautions to prevent bad things happening.
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Post #9Yes, and no one else's.Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:49 pm [Replying to Tcg in post #7]
No. It is a crime and the fault is the criminal's.
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Post #10I would presume those people usually have employers who know who they are and where they are going, which would be a at least a bit of a deterrent against assaulting customers.
