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Matt 19:16-26

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! Notice vs 17 As the young man had addressed Jesus as good, and Jesus responded accordingly, why callest thou me good, for none is good but ONE, that One Being God

Now , notice Jesus did not say, none is good but One and that is my Father, but He said that One, Being God !

Now if Jesus by this is not insinuating that He is God, then the alternative is that He was not good, seeing He just said only ONE, not Two, but ONLY ONE is good.

Now, if Jesus was not good, being that He was not the Only One Good God, then His commanding him, the young ruler, in order to be perfect, that he must go sell all his possessions, then give to the poor, and follow Him; Such an commandment exposed that the young man loved his possessions above God, which was a violation of the very first commandment, now if Jesus was not God, then the young mans refusal to obey and follow Jesus, could not be a proper standard to gauge his Love to God !

For there could not have been nothing amiss about not making such a great sacrifice as that Jesus told him, and then following Him if the One speaking was not the One God, who Only was good !

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Brightfame52 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:03 am ...
This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! ...
I think that is a wrong interpretation, because Jesus says that there is only one true God that is greater than him.

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3

the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

Which is also confirmed by Paul who says:

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Timothy 2:5

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Brightfame52 wrote: Jesus is God and Why !
Hebrews 2:9 wrote:But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. (Hebrews 2:9)
So you believe God can die?

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1213 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:15 am
Brightfame52 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:03 am ...
This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! ...
I think that is a wrong interpretation, because Jesus says that there is only one true God that is greater than him.

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3

the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

Which is also confirmed by Paul who says:

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Timothy 2:5
Jesus is both God and Man , I explained to you why.

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myth-one.com wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:27 am
Brightfame52 wrote: Jesus is God and Why !
Hebrews 2:9 wrote:But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. (Hebrews 2:9)
So you believe God can die?
As a Man Yes, God died. Jesus is both God and Man ! Now do you believe its impossible for God to become a Man and die ?

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myth-one.com wrote: So you believe God can die?
Brightfame52 wrote:As a Man Yes, God died.
God is a spirit, not a man:
John 4:24 wrote:God is a Spirit:
So no, God did not die as a man, as God is a Spirit -- not a man.
Brightfame52 wrote:Jesus is both God and Man !
No, there are two type of bodies, natural and spiritual, and neither type is a mixture of God/man!
Brightfame52 wrote:Now do you believe its impossible for God to become a Man and die ?
No, that is exactly what the Bible states, and thus it's what I believe! The spiritual bodied Word was made as flesh and dwelt among mankind on the earth. Being immortal, the Word still existed as the spiritual bodied God. Jesus was created as a mortal temporary being, and they both (The Word and Jesus) lived parallel lives for 33 years.

The Word was incapable of accomplishing what Jesus accomplished because it required dying; and the Word cannot die!

Jesus Christ was a flesh and blood 100% human man and a possible beneficiary under the Covenant between God and the subset of mankind known as the nation of Israel!

Do you remember that covenant, the one with the "fault" which was the work assigned to Jesus?

Do you remember who created everything ever created? It was the Word.

So the Word came up with this idea as to how to fix the fault in His original creation.

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The Issue is not accepting the scriptures that present the Manhood of Christ, the problem is those who reject the scriptures that present the Christ as God in His Deity.12

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myth-one.com wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:00 pm
myth-one.com wrote: So you believe God can die?
Brightfame52 wrote:As a Man Yes, God died.
God is a spirit, not a man:
John 4:24 wrote:God is a Spirit:
So no, God did not die as a man, as God is a Spirit -- not a man.
Brightfame52 wrote:Jesus is both God and Man !
No, there are two type of bodies, natural and spiritual, and neither type is a mixture of God/man!
Brightfame52 wrote:Now do you believe its impossible for God to become a Man and die ?
No, that is exactly what the Bible states, and thus it's what I believe! The spiritual bodied Word was made as flesh and dwelt among mankind on the earth. Being immortal, the Word still existed as the spiritual bodied God. Jesus was created as a mortal temporary being, and they both (The Word and Jesus) lived parallel lives for 33 years.

The Word was incapable of accomplishing what Jesus accomplished because it required dying; and the Word cannot die!

Jesus Christ was a flesh and blood 100% human man and a possible beneficiary under the Covenant between God and the subset of mankind known as the nation of Israel!

Do you remember that covenant, the one with the "fault" which was the work assigned to Jesus?

Do you remember who created everything ever created? It was the Word.

So the Word came up with this idea as to how to fix the fault in His original creation.
So you dont believe God can do something that He did do. He became a Man and died for the sins of His People.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:43 pm So you dont believe God can do something that He did do. He became a Man and died for the sins of His People.
Who are you claiming died for your sins -- God or Jesus?

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myth-one.com wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:28 pm
Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:43 pm So you dont believe God can do something that He did do. He became a Man and died for the sins of His People.
Who are you claiming died for your sins -- God or Jesus?
I already told you. Jesus is God and Man, He died as the Man Jesus Christ. He died as a Man who is God. Now take a picture of this answer so you know what I have stated.

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