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Matt 19:16-26

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! Notice vs 17 As the young man had addressed Jesus as good, and Jesus responded accordingly, why callest thou me good, for none is good but ONE, that One Being God

Now , notice Jesus did not say, none is good but One and that is my Father, but He said that One, Being God !

Now if Jesus by this is not insinuating that He is God, then the alternative is that He was not good, seeing He just said only ONE, not Two, but ONLY ONE is good.

Now, if Jesus was not good, being that He was not the Only One Good God, then His commanding him, the young ruler, in order to be perfect, that he must go sell all his possessions, then give to the poor, and follow Him; Such an commandment exposed that the young man loved his possessions above God, which was a violation of the very first commandment, now if Jesus was not God, then the young mans refusal to obey and follow Jesus, could not be a proper standard to gauge his Love to God !

For there could not have been nothing amiss about not making such a great sacrifice as that Jesus told him, and then following Him if the One speaking was not the One God, who Only was good !

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Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:42 am [Replying to onewithhim in post #459]
Please show us where I stated God is His Own Son. If not admit that that came from you and you are falsely accusing me or misrepresenting me.
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Please show us where I stated God is His Own Son. If not admit that that came from you and you are falsely accusing me or misrepresenting me.

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Again, these threads JESUS IS GOD and JISUS IS NOT GOD are tied together with this thread: What is being overlooked is that GOD created man in HIS own image. What does this mean? Well, it most likely doesn't mean that we all look like GOD. However, it would seem to mean that we possess the same attributes of GOD. And one attribute is that GOD is TRIUNE in HIS very nature. So, GOD would have created man as triune. Man is triune (Spirit, Soul, Body).
The Christian doctrine of immortality cannot be understood apart from the nature of men. Many feel that man is a physical being only. There is a great danger of any man thinking this. In his desire to satisfy the needs of the body there is the tendency on man’s part to lose sight of the fact that he is immortal. There have been persons who have lived all of their lives either in ignorance or willful neglect of a life after death, but upon their death-bed they suddenly see that they were more than physical beings.

There is another concept prevalent today that man consists of two component parts (body and spirit). This view appears to be one that might create confusion among Christians. While soul and spirit are so closely related that it is sometimes difficult to distinguish accurately between them, there seems to be only one logical conclusion: namely, that “the soul” and “the spirit” are not the same. The Bible makes a distinction.

Man again, is a triune being because he's created in the image of GOD. “GOD said, Let us make man in Our image” (Genesis 1:26). We know that GOD is triune in nature. The TRINITY is clearly promoted in Apostle Paul’s benediction that closed his Second Corinthian letter: “The grace of the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and the love of GOD, and the communion of the HOLY GHOST, be with you all. Amen” (2 Corinthians 13:14). CHRIST HIMSELF revealed likewise, in what we call “The Great Commission”: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST” (Matthew 28:19). Created in the image of GOD, man is likewise triune. He has a spiritual nature that is separate and distinct from the body in which it resides.

The two following passages from the Scripture clearly establish the fact that man is a triune being composed of spirit, soul, and body:

1) I pray GOD your whole SPIRIT and SOUL and BODY be preserved blameless unto the coming of our LORD JESUS CHRIST (1 Thessalonians 5:23).

2) For the word of GOD is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of SOUL and SPIRIT, and of the joints and marrow (body), and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart (Hebrews 4:12).

Regardless of the teaching of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and of other false sects that “no man possesses a soul,” the Bible emphatically states that man was created a trinity of SPIRIT, SOUL, and BODY even as the eternal GOD is HIMSELF a trinity composed of FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT. The trinity of man is a necessary part of the image relationship between him and God. Life is not ultimately physical and the body is not the entire man. And in addition the body in itself, nor the soul in itself, nor the spirit in itself makes up the whole man, but he is “Spirit, Soul and Body.” This must be seriously regarded and agreed upon before we can comprehend with accuracy the topic of life after death. We shall confine our material to the Spirit and the Soul inasmuch as the Body will be considered in the resurrection.

The Spirit
The word “Spirit” when used in the Scriptures has several meanings. Whenever the word “Spirit” begins with a capital letter, it has but one meaning. It is the name of the THIRD PERSON in the TRINITY, the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD. The word “spirit” spelled with a small letter may have one of several different meanings. It can directly refer to the spirit of man which is as much a part of the tripartite nature of man as the SPIRIT of the living GOD is a PERSON of the TRINITY. Or "spirit" can indicate an evil spirit such as any agent of the Devil/Satan. I will confine myself here to the Biblical usage of the word only as it relates to the spirit of man, one of the three components of his being.

The threefold nature of man might be illustrated in several ways. Dr. Clarence Larkin uses three circles (Rightly Dividing The Word, page 86). The outer circle represents for the body of man, the middle circle for the soul, and the inner for the spirit. At this point it will be well to quote a portion from Dr. Larkin’s book:

In the outer circle the ‘Body’ is shown as touching the Material world through the five senses of ‘Sight,’ ‘Smell,’ ‘Hearing,’ ‘Taste’ and ‘Touch.’

The Gates to the ‘Soul’ are ‘Imagination,’ ‘Conscience,’ ‘Memory,’ ‘Reason’ and the ‘Affections.’

The “Spirit” receives impressions of outward and material things through the soul. The spiritual faculties of the ‘Spirit’ are ‘Faith,’ ‘Hope,’ ‘Reverence,’ ‘Prayer’ and ‘Worship.’


In his unfallen state the ‘Spirit’ of man was illuminated by Heaven, but when the human race fell through Adam, sin closed the window of the Spirit, drew the curtain down, and the chamber of the spirit became a death chamber and remains so in every unregenerate heart, until the Life and Light giving power of the Holy Spirit floods that chamber with the Life and Light giving power of the new life in CHRIST JESUS.

It elaborates that the spirit of man, being the sphere of God-consciousness, is the inner or private office of man where the work of regeneration takes place. Dr. James R. Graham says that the main theatre of the HOLY SPIRIT's activity in man, and the part of man’s nature with which He has peculiar attraction, is the spirit of man. The Apostle Paul gives us the Word of God on this, a passage that is sadly neglected. Quoting from the chapter 64 of the Prophet Isaiah, Paul wrote:

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which GOD hath prepared for them that love HIM. Many people stop here, content to remain in ignorance. However, Paul continues:

But God hath revealed them unto us by HIS SPIRIT; for the SPIRIT searcheth all things, yes, the deep things of GOD.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of GOD knoweth no man, but the SPIRIT of GOD (1 Corinthians 2:9-11).

Man in his unregenerate state comes to know the things of man by the operator of “the spirit of man” which is within him. If I have a will to know certain scientific facts, by my human spirit I am enabled to investigate, think, and weigh evidence. If I set myself to the task, I may become a scientist of world-renown and of great accomplishments. However, my human spirit is “limited to the things of man.” If I wish to know about the things of GOD, my dead and dormant spirit is not able to know them.

The natural man receiveth not the things of the SPIRIT of GOD; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14).

The human spirit requires “the spark of regeneration” before there is an understanding of the things of GOD. Man’s spiritual nature must be renewed before there is a true conception of Godliness. Only one thing stands as a guard at the door of man’s spirit, and that is his own will. When the will is surrendered, the HOLY SPIRIT takes up HIS abode in the spirit of man. And when that transaction takes place we will know it, for, says Paul:

The SPIRIT HIMSELF (meaning the HOLY SPIRIT) beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of GOD (Romans 8:16 R.V.).

Many people say that they get nothing out of the Bible even though they attend church and read their Bibles regularly. Perhaps they do not know that they are not regenerated and that they need to yield their will to the SPIRIT of GOD so that HE can renew their human spirits. The deep things of GOD never will be understood by the world apart from JESUS CHRIST. Our LORD warned HIS disciples,

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine (Matthew 7:6).

The spirit of the unregenerate man has no more capacity to appreciate the things of GOD than a dog has to appreciate holy things, or a hog a genuine pearl necklace. We read that “The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire” (2 Peter 2:22). This they did because the dog was a dog and the sow was a sow. No amount of religion or church activity can change the spirit of the unregenerate man. “Remember,” says Dr. G. Campbell Morgan, “if out of false charity or pity you allow men of material ideals and worldly wisdom to touch holy things, to handle the pearls of the Kingdom, presently they will turn and rend you. This is the whole history of Christendom’s ruin, in the measure in which Christendom is ruined. We gave holy things to dogs. We cast the pearls of the Kingdom before swine.” The ministry of CHRIST’s Church dare not be entrusted to any man who has not been born again, for “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the SPIRIT is spirit” (John 3:6).

The Bible says; “There is a spirit in man; and the inspiration of the ALMIGHTY giveth them understanding” (Job 32:8). Here we are told that it is the spirit of man that is given understanding. The materialist tells us that the spirit of man is the air that he breathes, and that man’s body is all there is to his personality. Such isn't the case. The spirit of man is his personality and it is that which differentiates him from the lower animal creation. If “spirit” meant merely “breath,” GOD would not deal with it as a personality. HE is called “The GOD of the spirits of all flesh” (Numbers 16:22), and “the FATHER of spirits” (Hebrews 12:9). It is through his spirit that the Christian both serves and worships GOD. Paul testified: “For God is my witness, Whom I serve with my spirit in the Gospel” (Romans 1:9). JESUS stated: “GOD is a spirit; and they that worship HIM must worship HIM in spirit and in truth” (John 4:24).

The Soul
Man not only has a living soul but he is a living soul. The Bible reveals: “And the LORD GOD formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul” (Genesis 2:7). We must be careful not to confound that which is truly spiritual and that which is merely soulish or psychical. We have seen that the spirit of man is the sphere of activity where the HOLY SPIRIT operates in regeneration. Just so is the soul the sphere of activity where Satan operates making his appeal to the affections and emotions of man.

Satan comprehends that he dominates the psychical or the soulish man. Therefore he does not care if a man goes to a church where the SPIRIT of GOD is not in evidence. He knows that his victim is a creature of emotions, and it matters not if the emotions are stirred to sentimentalism or even to tears, just so long as man’s spirit does not come in contact with God’s Holy Spirit. Likely, Satan would rather have man go to a modernistic church where there is false worship/teaching than he would have him go to a house of prostitution. The soul is the seat of the passions, the feelings, and the desires of man; and Satan is satisfied if he can master these. F. W. Grant has said that the soul is the seat of the affections, right or wrong, of love, hate, lusts, and even the appetites of the body.

Hamor said to Jacob, “The soul of my son Shechem longeth for your daughter” (Genesis 34:8). Of David and Jonathan it is written: “The soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul” (1 Samuel 18:1). These passages show the soul to be the seat of the affections. But as the soul loves, so it also hates. We read of those “that are hated of David’s soul” (2 Samuel 5:8).

It is in the soul where fleshly lusts, desires, and appetites arise:

Abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul (Peter 2:11).

As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country (Proverbs 25:25).

It shall be even as when a hungry man dreameth, and behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty; or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite (Isaiah 29:8).

The soul of man, that is, his affections and desires, are never directed Godward until after the spirit has become regenerated. Man can never love God nor the things of GOD until he is born-again from above. He may have a troubled conscience or be so stirred emotionally that he may weep bitterly, and still remain dead in trespasses and in sins. We do not feel guilty of judging men when we state that some who have answered an altar call and shed tears never were born again. Man’s desires and affections are turned toward GOD when he realizes his sinful condition and GOD’s grace in salvation. When the SPIRIT of GOD illuminates the spirit of a man with divine light and life, that man begins to yield his affections and faculties to GOD.

The Virgin Mary said; “My soul doth magnify the LORD, And my spirit hath rejoiced in GOD my Savior” (Luke 1:46, 47). She could not extol the LORD in her soul until she had recognized GOD in her spirit as her SAVIOR. The initial triumph is in the spirit when JESUS CHRIST is acknowledged as personal SAVIOR.

In that immortal classic of the Psalms, David says: “He restoreth my soul” (Psalm 23:3). The Hebrew word translated “restoreth” is said to mean quite literally “turneth back.” At no time had David lost his salvation, but there were times when his affections and desires were turned from the LORD, as in the case of his sin with Bathsheba. Having become one of the Divine Shepherd’s flock, he testified: “The LORD turneth back my soul.” The Christian who is enjoying unbroken communion with his LORD will then be able to say, “Bless the LORD, O my soul, and all that is within me, bless HIS holy name” (Psalm 103:1).

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Jesus is God, the True God by Apostolic Testimony,

1 Jn 5:20

20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

The subject here is the Son of God

Now the nearest antecedent to who the True God is The Son Jesus Christ !

This same Apostle Identified the Son as God in his Gospel testimony Jn 1:1,14

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Also we see Jesus testimony " He that is True" Rev 3:7

And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

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Jesus is God, the True God by Apostolic Testimony, in that its written,

He as the Son of God is worshipped as God by the Angels of God,

Heb 1:5-6

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

If He be not God this is Idolatry !, for only God is to be worshipped Lk 4:8

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:12 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #461]
Please show us where I stated God is His Own Son. If not admit that that came from you and you are falsely accusing me or misrepresenting me.
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Please show us where I stated God is His Own Son. If not admit that that came from you and you are falsely accusing me or misrepresenting me.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:01 am Jesus is God, the True God by Apostolic Testimony, in that its written,

He as the Son of God is worshipped as God by the Angels of God,

Heb 1:5-6

5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

If He be not God this is Idolatry !, for only God is to be worshipped Lk 4:8

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Please explain what do you think the word worship means in both of those cases?

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Simple, worship, and none should be worshipped but God, otherwise its Idolatry.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:55 am [Replying to 1213 in post #468]

Simple, worship, and none should be worshipped but God, otherwise its Idolatry.
But what does the word worship mean?

In any case, I think in this situation it is good to understand these:

Most assuredly I tell you, he who receives whomever I send, receives me; and he who receives me, receives him who sent me."
John 13:20

Then the King will tell those on his right hand, 'Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foun-dation of the world; for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in; naked, and you clothed me; I was sick, and you visited me; I was in prison, and you came to me.' "Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?' "The King will answer them, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers{The word for "brothers" here may be also correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."}, you did it to me.' Then he will say al-so to those on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.' "Then they will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn't help you?' "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of the least of these, you didn't do it to me.' These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Matt. 25:34-46

If you receive the one who was send by God, you receive God. And what you do for the one who was sent, you do also to the God. This does not mean that the one who was sent, is the God. This means, if you serve the one who was sent by God, you serve God through him.

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