Does consciousness exist?
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Does consciousness exist?
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Does consciousness exist?
Post #1Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #3I think the first step in discussing whether something exists is to define specifically what we are talking about.Wootah wrote: ↑Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:39 pm Does consciousness exist?
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So let's define "consciousness" to begin with, and once we are all sure we are talking about the same thing, we can continue.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #4Go for it.Kylie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:17 pmI think the first step in discussing whether something exists is to define specifically what we are talking about.Wootah wrote: ↑Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:39 pm Does consciousness exist?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscious ... sciousness.
https://www.google.com/search?q=does+co ... nt=gws-wiz
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So let's define "consciousness" to begin with, and once we are all sure we are talking about the same thing, we can continue.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #5Someone call Dan.Bust Nak wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:01 pm [Replying to Wootah in post #1]
Yes, I am conscious, therefore consciousness exists.
edit: 4min:10s Dennet says we are cells, that is what we are. Lol I haven't watched this for ages but he and I agree.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #6I think he already knows consciousness exists, what do you think he was trying to explain, if the thing he was explaining doesn't exist?
Fun video, but what exactly do you think he and I would disagree on? To borrow his analogy, here you are asking, "does magic exist?" and I say "yes, I saw the lady get sawed in half in a magic show, therefore magic exists." Are you going to tell me, that's not real magic? Real magic refers to the magic that's not real. While the magic that is real, that can actually be done, is not real magic?
Are you left dissatisfy and incredulous since consciousness can easily be verified to exist, for the same reason that one might not like having the magic trick explained to you? That you'd rather be mystified?
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #7Consciousness is that thing that has us making sure we're all talking about the same thing.Kylie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:17 pmI think the first step in discussing whether something exists is to define specifically what we are talking about.Wootah wrote: ↑Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:39 pm Does consciousness exist?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscious ... sciousness.
https://www.google.com/search?q=does+co ... nt=gws-wiz
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So let's define "consciousness" to begin with, and once we are all sure we are talking about the same thing, we can continue.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #8That hadn't occurred to me. That's funny.
It reminds me of the quip I heard from Tim Minchin (whether it's his originally or not):
What do you call alternative medicine that's been shown to work? Medicine.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #9I think you should be the one to provide a definition, since it is your thread.Wootah wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:23 pmGo for it.Kylie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:17 pmI think the first step in discussing whether something exists is to define specifically what we are talking about.Wootah wrote: ↑Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:39 pm Does consciousness exist?
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https://www.google.com/search?q=does+co ... nt=gws-wiz
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Re: Does consciousness exist?
Post #10[Replying to Kylie in post #9]
the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings.
"she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
Similar:
awareness
wakefulness
alertness
responsiveness
sentience
Opposite:
unconsciousness
2.
a person's awareness or perception of something
the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings.
"she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
Similar:
awareness
wakefulness
alertness
responsiveness
sentience
Opposite:
unconsciousness
2.
a person's awareness or perception of something
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