Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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Is it reasonable to believe in God?

Note, the question here is not whether you think it is true that God exists, but simply whether such a belief is reasonable or not.

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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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William wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:36 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:08 pm
William wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:21 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:13 pm
William wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:33 pm I think that trying to use Schrodinger's cat as an analogy re the question of GOD, is a bit of a gooficity.
It was an analogy on how something - god or not - exists independent of observation.

But boy howdy did it go off the rails :wave:
The implication there is that you are saying GOD exists. :wave:
Nope, not what I said.

I'm still in the no camp on that'n.
Looking back on previous conversations;
Lest there be any confusion...

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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:41 pm
William wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:36 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:08 pm
William wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:21 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:13 pm
William wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:33 pm I think that trying to use Schrodinger's cat as an analogy re the question of GOD, is a bit of a gooficity.
It was an analogy on how something - god or not - exists independent of observation.

But boy howdy did it go off the rails :wave:
The implication there is that you are saying GOD exists. :wave:
Nope, not what I said.

I'm still in the no camp on that'n.
Looking back on previous conversations;
Lest there be any confusion...

I, Joey of Knothead, do not believe in the existence of a god or gods.
"do not believe in the existence of a god or gods." Is that the same as "believe that GODs don't exist?"

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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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William wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:01 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Lest there be any confusion...

I, Joey of Knothead, do not believe in the existence of a god or gods. X
"do not believe in the existence of a god or gods." Is that the same as "believe that GODs don't exist?"
For me, and only me, yes.

I also don't believe such as tooth fairies, Easter bunnies, and Santa Clausi exist.
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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:35 pm
William wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:01 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Lest there be any confusion...

I, Joey of Knothead, do not believe in the existence of a god or gods. X
"do not believe in the existence of a god or gods." Is that the same as "believe that GODs don't exist?"
For me, and only me, yes.
I am not one to stand between a man and his beliefs. [Thinking about mules and faces/ribs et al]
I also don't believe such as tooth fairies, Easter bunnies, and Santa Clausi exist.
Tangents such as these are unnecessary and off-topic re the question of GOD.

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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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William wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:42 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:35 pm
William wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:01 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Lest there be any confusion...

I, Joey of Knothead, do not believe in the existence of a god or gods. X
"do not believe in the existence of a god or gods." Is that the same as "believe that GODs don't exist?"
For me, and only me, yes.
I am not one to stand between a man and his beliefs. [Thinking about mules and faces/ribs et al]
Oh no, I believe mules exist.
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JK wrote: I also don't believe such as tooth fairies, Easter bunnies, and Santa Clausi exist.
Tangents such as these are unnecessary and off-topic re the question of GOD.
That you don't see the connection doesn't mean it's a tangent.
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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #185]
Oh no, I believe mules exist.
I meant that to stand between a man and his beliefs can be analogous to standing between the back end of a mule and the barn wall.
That you don't see the connection doesn't mean it's a tangent.
That I don't have any firmly formed beliefs which promote those connections, means that - for me anyways - it would be a tangent to go off on with ye.

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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:35 pm I also don't believe such as tooth fairies, Easter bunnies, and Santa Clausi exist.
Do you believe in fairy penguins Joey? :D
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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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brunumb wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:52 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:35 pm I also don't believe such as tooth fairies, Easter bunnies, and Santa Clausi exist.
Do you believe in fairy penguins Joey? :D
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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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TRANSPONDER wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:48 am [Replying to theophile in post #178]

Bottom line, what is undisprovable is not evidence. The fantasy about interconnected human supernatural something is not a valid claim until you validate it; it is not a Faithclaim that is to be considered true until 100% disproven.
We all serve something each moment of our lives (be it family, wealth, God, whatever). The object of our service is evinced by our actions, and is what I call the spirit we are in. (Spirits are our chosen masters if you will). What further evidence or validation do you need to be able to speak of such things? Even if they're just ideas in our heads, they still exist.

But perhaps it comes down to this: whether choice exists. If it does, then the object of our service takes on much more significance (why else do we choose it?). If it doesn't, I would concede that the spirits I'm speaking of become rather meaningless.

So is that what you all are trying to say I wonder? That we don't have choice? ...

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Re: Is it reasonable to believe in God?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:29 pm
brunumb wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:52 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:35 pm I also don't believe such as tooth fairies, Easter bunnies, and Santa Clausi exist.
Do you believe in fairy penguins Joey? :D
How do ya think we get gummy worms?
These fairy penguins live a few hours away from me. You're not allowed to feed them gummy worms. :D

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