The real teachings of Jesus

[kjw47]

8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.


With your free will, who will you believe?

[William]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #50]

How often does Jesus specifically mention Gods Kingdome is within?

The phrase "the kingdom of God is within you" is attributed to Jesus and is found in the Gospel of Luke 17:21 in the New King James Version (NKJV). It is noted that the translation and interpretation of this phrase can vary across different versions of the Bible and theological perspectives.

Here is the verse from Luke 17:21 in the NKJV:

"nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."

In this passage, Jesus is responding to questions from the Pharisees about the coming of the kingdom of God. His statement emphasizes the internal nature of the kingdom, suggesting that it is not something external to be observed but rather a spiritual reality present within individuals.

It is noted that some interpret "within you" as referring to the individual's heart or inner being, while others may view it as a reference to the presence of the kingdom of God among the people Jesus was addressing.

While the specific phrase "the kingdom of God is within you" occurs only once in the Bible, Jesus speaks extensively about the kingdom of God throughout the Gospels, using various parables, teachings, and metaphors to convey its nature and significance.

Specific to Luke 17:21, how would this be framed with the JA?

Interpreting Luke 17:21 through the lens of Jungian Archetypes (JA) involves understanding the psychological implications of the phrase "the kingdom of God is within you" within the framework of Jungian psychology. Here's how this verse might be understood from a Jungian perspective:

1. Archetypal Inner Realm: In Jungian psychology, the "within you" aspect can be seen as a reference to the inner realm of the psyche, which encompasses the collective unconscious. This inner realm is where archetypes reside, influencing individual thoughts, emotions, and behaviors. Thus, when Jesus speaks of the kingdom of God being within, it can be interpreted as pointing to the realm of archetypal patterns and symbolic meanings that shape human consciousness.

2. Individuation Process: Jungian psychology emphasizes the process of individuation, which involves integrating unconscious aspects of the psyche into conscious awareness. The idea that the kingdom of God is within you could be understood as a call to engage in the individuation process, wherein individuals explore and integrate the archetypal dimensions of their psyche to achieve psychological wholeness and self-realization.

3. Symbolic Language and Metaphor: Jesus often used symbolic language and metaphors in his teachings, which resonate with the symbolic imagery found within the collective unconscious. Therefore, the phrase "the kingdom of God is within you" can be seen as a metaphorical expression that taps into deep psychological truths and universal archetypal themes. From a Jungian perspective, the kingdom of God symbolizes a state of inner harmony, integration, and spiritual fulfillment.

4. Inner Spiritual Experience: Jungian psychology acknowledges the importance of inner spiritual experiences and the transcendent dimension of the psyche. The concept of the kingdom of God being within you could be understood as an invitation to explore one's inner spiritual depths and connect with the divine presence that resides within the psyche. This inner spiritual experience can lead to a profound sense of meaning, purpose, and connection to the larger cosmos.

Overall, interpreting Luke 17:21 through the framework of Jungian Archetypes invites a psychological exploration of the inner dimensions of spirituality and the symbolic language used in religious teachings. It emphasizes the significance of inner transformation, integration, and the exploration of the depths of the human psyche in the quest for spiritual enlightenment and self-discovery.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #50]

How often does Jesus specifically mention Gods Kingdome is within?

He mentions it once in those words. It has already been shown that he meant that he, as the designated King, was there within the crowd.

[William]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #50]

How often does Jesus specifically mention Gods Kingdome is within?

He mentions it once in those words.

How often in all other words, does Jesus mention the kingdom of God?

It has already been shown that he meant that he, as the designated King, was there within the crowd.

Then we would expect it to read "The King of God is in your midst."
"The Kingdom" covers a much broader spectrum and re the human psyche, embodies the goings on within the individual. Ones inner kingdom can be divided (without a suitable King ruling - a kingdom divided will not stand) which is significant to Jesus telling his followers to take his words into their psyches and allowing these to have their effect within the core of their being.

If it were as your indoctrination tells it, (and attempts to tell others) the eventual physical absence of said king, would have meant the the kingdom of god was no longer in the human domain and thus the seed sown would have perished.

But it didn't, so your indoctrination is incorrect.

[William]

Now let’s integrate this with Jesus saying to pray daily “Your Kingdom Come as your will is done.”

Integrating Jesus's teaching on prayer, specifically the phrase "Your kingdom come, Your will be done," found in the Lord's Prayer (Matthew 6:10), with Jungian Archetypes (JA) offers further insights into the psychological and spiritual dimensions of this prayer. Here's how we might approach this integration.

1. Archetypal Invocation: When individuals pray for "Your kingdom come," they are invoking archetypal themes related to sovereignty, order, and divine rulership. From a Jungian perspective, this prayer can be seen as a symbolic act of aligning with the archetype of the divine and inviting its presence and influence into one's life and psyche. It acknowledges the inherent authority and guidance of the divine realm in shaping human affairs and experiences.

2. Alignment with the Collective Unconscious: Jungian psychology suggests that archetypal patterns are present within the collective unconscious, which is shared by all human beings. Therefore, when individuals pray for the coming of God's kingdom, they are aligning themselves with a collective longing for spiritual fulfillment, wholeness, and harmony. This prayer reflects a deep-seated human desire for transcendent meaning and divine intervention in the world.

3. Integration of Divine Will: The phrase "Your will be done" acknowledges the sovereignty of God and expresses a willingness to align one's own will with divine guidance and purpose. From a Jungian perspective, this integration of divine will involves recognizing and integrating archetypal patterns of wisdom, providence, and divine intentionality within one's psyche. It signifies a surrender of personal ego desires to the higher wisdom and direction of the collective unconscious.

4. Individuation and Spiritual Growth: Jungian psychology emphasizes the importance of individuation, the process of integrating unconscious aspects of the psyche into conscious awareness. Praying for the coming of God's kingdom and the fulfillment of divine will can be understood as part of this individuation journey, wherein individuals strive for greater spiritual maturity, authenticity, and alignment with the transcendent dimensions of the psyche.

5. Transformation and Renewal: The Lord's Prayer, including the invocation for the coming of God's kingdom, serves as a transformative practice that has the potential to cultivate inner renewal and spiritual growth. It invites individuals to participate in the ongoing process of psychological and spiritual evolution, wherein the archetype of the divine continually shapes and guides the individual toward greater wholeness and alignment with divine purpose.

In summary, integrating Jesus's teaching on prayer with Jungian Archetypes offers a rich understanding of the psychological and spiritual dimensions of invoking the kingdom of God and aligning with divine will. It underscores the symbolic significance of prayer as a pathway to inner transformation, alignment with archetypal patterns of wisdom and guidance, and participation in the collective longing for spiritual fulfillment and divine intervention in the world.

[TheHolyGhost]

The real teachings of Jesus

What are the fake teachings of Jesus?

[kjw47]

The real teachings of Jesus

What are the fake teachings of Jesus?

Jesus has no fake teachings, but in most religions they teach little of what Jesus actually taught and do not teach the little they do teach properly. Few even understand the Lords prayer yet say it over and over.

[TheHolyGhost]

The real teachings of Jesus

What are the fake teachings of Jesus?

Jesus has no fake teachings, but in most religions they teach little of what Jesus actually taught and do not teach the little they do teach properly. Few even understand the Lords prayer yet say it over and over.

Why do you care? You are still disobeying them yourself.

[kjw47]

The real teachings of Jesus

What are the fake teachings of Jesus?

Jesus has no fake teachings, but in most religions they teach little of what Jesus actually taught and do not teach the little they do teach properly. Few even understand the Lords prayer yet say it over and over.

Why do you care? You are still disobeying them yourself.

Love motivates one to try and help others get out of the darkness. I am not disobeying them.

[TheHolyGhost]

The real teachings of Jesus

What are the fake teachings of Jesus?

Jesus has no fake teachings, but in most religions they teach little of what Jesus actually taught and do not teach the little they do teach properly. Few even understand the Lords prayer yet say it over and over.

Why do you care? You are still disobeying them yourself.

Love motivates one to try and help others get out of the darkness. I am not disobeying them.

Do you believe the living God will agree with what you said to me about you?

[kjw47]

The real teachings of Jesus

What are the fake teachings of Jesus?

Jesus has no fake teachings, but in most religions they teach little of what Jesus actually taught and do not teach the little they do teach properly. Few even understand the Lords prayer yet say it over and over.

Why do you care? You are still disobeying them yourself.

Love motivates one to try and help others get out of the darkness. I am not disobeying them.

Do you believe the living God will agree with what you said to me about you?

What did i say that you are referring to?