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8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.


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What is the question for debate? You need to add a question at the end (for example: "The question for debate is WHO IS THE TRUE GOD"). Thats just an example, think if your own question and put it at the end.


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kjw47 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:40 pm 8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.
As well as those verses teaching us about slavery.


Matthew 6:24
“You cannot be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 10:24
A disciple is not above his teacher, or a slave above his master.

Luke 12:42
And the Lord said, ‘Who then is the faithful and prudent manager whom his master will put in charge of his slaves, to give them their allowance of food at the proper time?

Luke 12:46-48
46 the master of that slave will come on a day which he does not expect, and at an hour which he does not know. And he will cut him in two, and assign him his part with the unbelievers. 47 But that slave having known the will of his master, and not having prepared or acted in accordance with his will, will be beaten many blows. 48 But the one not having known, and having done things worthy of blows, will be beaten a few blows. And to everyone whom much was given, much will be sought from him. And to whom they entrusted much, they will ask him even more.

Luke 16:13

No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.”


Think we should treat people this way? How about censuring slavery altogether rather than condoning it as Jesus does. He accepts the ownership of people as easily as he accepts owning a mule, and without even a nod to its repugnance.


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Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:52 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:40 pm 8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.
As well as those verses teaching us about slavery.


Matthew 6:24
“You cannot be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 10:24
A disciple is not above his teacher, or a slave above his master.

Luke 12:42
And the Lord said, ‘Who then is the faithful and prudent manager whom his master will put in charge of his slaves, to give them their allowance of food at the proper time?

Luke 12:46-48
46 the master of that slave will come on a day which he does not expect, and at an hour which he does not know. And he will cut him in two, and assign him his part with the unbelievers. 47 But that slave having known the will of his master, and not having prepared or acted in accordance with his will, will be beaten many blows. 48 But the one not having known, and having done things worthy of blows, will be beaten a few blows. And to everyone whom much was given, much will be sought from him. And to whom they entrusted much, they will ask him even more.

Luke 16:13

No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.”


Think we should treat people this way? How about censuring slavery altogether rather than condoning it as Jesus does. He accepts the ownership of people as easily as he accepts owning a mule, and without even a nod to its repugnance.


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Jesus spoke of being a slave to God-- Thats in a good way, because Gods will benefits us in all ways.
The bible does speak of one being a slave to other men. It says do your best for him, because a live dog is better than a dead lion. And there would always be a hope of getting out of being a slave to other mortals. Slavery has been= reality through the centuries. Yes hard hearted mortals think they can own another and do whatever they want to them. Those have excercised their free will to do those things. God isnt interfering with free will, it wouldn't be free will otherwise. In certain cases he may if it would benefit his real followers. Dont forget mortals chose knowing good and bad. Gods kingdom will cure it all.

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kjw47 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:40 pm
8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.

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I added one-sorry about that

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kjw47 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:52 am
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:52 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:40 pm 8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.
As well as those verses teaching us about slavery.


Matthew 6:24
“You cannot be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 10:24
A disciple is not above his teacher, or a slave above his master.

Luke 12:42
And the Lord said, ‘Who then is the faithful and prudent manager whom his master will put in charge of his slaves, to give them their allowance of food at the proper time?

Luke 12:46-48
46 the master of that slave will come on a day which he does not expect, and at an hour which he does not know. And he will cut him in two, and assign him his part with the unbelievers. 47 But that slave having known the will of his master, and not having prepared or acted in accordance with his will, will be beaten many blows. 48 But the one not having known, and having done things worthy of blows, will be beaten a few blows. And to everyone whom much was given, much will be sought from him. And to whom they entrusted much, they will ask him even more.

Luke 16:13

No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.”


Think we should treat people this way? How about censuring slavery altogether rather than condoning it as Jesus does. He accepts the ownership of people as easily as he accepts owning a mule, and without even a nod to its repugnance.


.

Jesus spoke of being a slave to God-- Thats in a good way, because Gods will benefits us in all ways.
Jesus also spoke of slavery, the actual owning of another human being, in an acceptable manner; never once condemning the practice.
A practice that included buying such people from the nations around you and from among strangers who sojourn with you; bequeathing them to your sons to inherit as a possession forever; freely beating them, male and female, as long as they don't die within a "day or two"; and even buying Hebrew slaves. Moreover, if you give a male slave a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children are yours to keep.

This is what Jesus deemed acceptable, and all without a nod to its repugnance.

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Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 pm
kjw47 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:52 am
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:52 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:40 pm 8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.
As well as those verses teaching us about slavery.


Matthew 6:24
“You cannot be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 10:24
A disciple is not above his teacher, or a slave above his master.

Luke 12:42
And the Lord said, ‘Who then is the faithful and prudent manager whom his master will put in charge of his slaves, to give them their allowance of food at the proper time?

Luke 12:46-48
46 the master of that slave will come on a day which he does not expect, and at an hour which he does not know. And he will cut him in two, and assign him his part with the unbelievers. 47 But that slave having known the will of his master, and not having prepared or acted in accordance with his will, will be beaten many blows. 48 But the one not having known, and having done things worthy of blows, will be beaten a few blows. And to everyone whom much was given, much will be sought from him. And to whom they entrusted much, they will ask him even more.

Luke 16:13

No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.”


Think we should treat people this way? How about censuring slavery altogether rather than condoning it as Jesus does. He accepts the ownership of people as easily as he accepts owning a mule, and without even a nod to its repugnance.


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Jesus spoke of being a slave to God-- Thats in a good way, because Gods will benefits us in all ways.
Jesus also spoke of slavery, the actual owning of another human being, in an acceptable manner; never once condemning the practice.
A practice that included buying such people from the nations around you and from among strangers who sojourn with you; bequeathing them to your sons to inherit as a possession forever; freely beating them, male and female, as long as they don't die within a "day or two"; and even buying Hebrew slaves. Moreover, if you give a male slave a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children are yours to keep.

This is what Jesus deemed acceptable, and all without a nod to its repugnance.

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I think he was being realistic because slavery was a common practice. And some sold themselves into being indentured slaves as well.
Please show the scriptures where Jesus said those things please. It really doesnt have much to do with the OP.

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kjw47 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:34 pm
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 pm
kjw47 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:52 am
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:52 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:40 pm 8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.
As well as those verses teaching us about slavery.


Matthew 6:24
“You cannot be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 10:24
A disciple is not above his teacher, or a slave above his master.

Luke 12:42
And the Lord said, ‘Who then is the faithful and prudent manager whom his master will put in charge of his slaves, to give them their allowance of food at the proper time?

Luke 12:46-48
46 the master of that slave will come on a day which he does not expect, and at an hour which he does not know. And he will cut him in two, and assign him his part with the unbelievers. 47 But that slave having known the will of his master, and not having prepared or acted in accordance with his will, will be beaten many blows. 48 But the one not having known, and having done things worthy of blows, will be beaten a few blows. And to everyone whom much was given, much will be sought from him. And to whom they entrusted much, they will ask him even more.

Luke 16:13

No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.”


Think we should treat people this way? How about censuring slavery altogether rather than condoning it as Jesus does. He accepts the ownership of people as easily as he accepts owning a mule, and without even a nod to its repugnance.


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Jesus spoke of being a slave to God-- Thats in a good way, because Gods will benefits us in all ways.
Jesus also spoke of slavery, the actual owning of another human being, in an acceptable manner; never once condemning the practice.
A practice that included buying such people from the nations around you and from among strangers who sojourn with you; bequeathing them to your sons to inherit as a possession forever; freely beating them, male and female, as long as they don't die within a "day or two"; and even buying Hebrew slaves. Moreover, if you give a male slave a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children are yours to keep.

This is what Jesus deemed acceptable, and all without a nod to its repugnance.

.

I think he was being realistic because slavery was a common practice.
Are you implying that Jesus based his morals on popularity?

And some sold themselves into being indentured slaves as well.
Some did, but the vast majority were taken against their will.

Please show the scriptures where Jesus said those things please.
Those things I said Jesus said are in post 3.

It really doesnt have much to do with the OP.
It certainly does. They are things Jesus taught.

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Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:45 pm
kjw47 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:34 pm
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 pm
kjw47 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:52 am
Miles wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:52 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:40 pm 8) real teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth--clearly shows who he is with

1) Matthew 6:33-Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek( great crowd) for they will inherit the earth

3) The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) in some translations-last line-the kingdom, power and glory are all the Fathers.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHWH(Jehovah)-----2 major points here-Jesus said the Father is the only true God and that God sent him, God did not come down here.

5) At John 20:17-Jesus tells all the Father is his God just like ours and reaffirms that while back in heaven at Revelation 3:12---Paul teaches that fact-1Cor 15:24-28, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, as does Peter-1Peter1:3

6) At John 4:22-24-Jesus begins by warning all other Gods are false, then teaches--the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth--Paul does the same at 1 Cor 8:5-6--Warns of false Gods then names only the Father as God.

7)Jesus gives this warning at John 15:20-21--He says--some will do things against the true worshippers on account of his name( meaning they think they are standing up for his name) Why??? Because they do not know the one who sent him=Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD

8)At Matthew 28:18- All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth---If Jesus were God he would of already had the authority, but its clear reasoning that someone superior gave to him that authority.

Its not very hard to see who is who once they actually know what Jesus teaches. All his real teachers teach exactly what he taught.
As well as those verses teaching us about slavery.


Matthew 6:24
“You cannot be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 10:24
A disciple is not above his teacher, or a slave above his master.

Luke 12:42
And the Lord said, ‘Who then is the faithful and prudent manager whom his master will put in charge of his slaves, to give them their allowance of food at the proper time?

Luke 12:46-48
46 the master of that slave will come on a day which he does not expect, and at an hour which he does not know. And he will cut him in two, and assign him his part with the unbelievers. 47 But that slave having known the will of his master, and not having prepared or acted in accordance with his will, will be beaten many blows. 48 But the one not having known, and having done things worthy of blows, will be beaten a few blows. And to everyone whom much was given, much will be sought from him. And to whom they entrusted much, they will ask him even more.

Luke 16:13

No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.”


Think we should treat people this way? How about censuring slavery altogether rather than condoning it as Jesus does. He accepts the ownership of people as easily as he accepts owning a mule, and without even a nod to its repugnance.


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Jesus spoke of being a slave to God-- Thats in a good way, because Gods will benefits us in all ways.
Jesus also spoke of slavery, the actual owning of another human being, in an acceptable manner; never once condemning the practice.
A practice that included buying such people from the nations around you and from among strangers who sojourn with you; bequeathing them to your sons to inherit as a possession forever; freely beating them, male and female, as long as they don't die within a "day or two"; and even buying Hebrew slaves. Moreover, if you give a male slave a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children are yours to keep.

This is what Jesus deemed acceptable, and all without a nod to its repugnance.

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I think he was being realistic because slavery was a common practice.
Are you implying that Jesus based his morals on popularity?

And some sold themselves into being indentured slaves as well.
Some did, but the vast majority were taken against their will.

Please show the scriptures where Jesus said those things please.
Those things I said Jesus said are in post 3.

It really doesnt have much to do with the OP.
It certainly does. They are things Jesus taught.

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Those scriptures are about being Gods slaves.

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