Does life have meaning for an atheist?

[Wootah]

Yes, we do live as though the world was flat. If we do airline travel, we know we are going around a globe, But that's about the only time we realise it. But this is to reduce the Bible to the level of any other story or history book, real or false or a mix. There is no reason to put it anywhere but on the shelf with all the other books of myth. It talks about the condition of man, but we just understand it better now than the writers of the Bible, even if they hadn't ascribed it all to a god. Yes, science isn't settled by a long shot - nobody (but Theists misrepresenting it, yet again) says that it is, but the fact is that the more science has found out the more the gaps for god have shrunk. If you think that a 'longer shot' is going to validate a god (name your own) I think you are fooling yourself. And you may think that without the idea that a god made us as the pinnacle of creation,we don't value humans. Theists make that mistake all the time, just as they think life has no meaning unless a god imposes one. This is all a misconception that Theists can never understand until they deconvert.

Go on prove life has meaning?

[TRANSPONDER]

No, because you are asking the wrong question, just as argument from morality has the wrong question, and argument from design has the wrong question and it's based on the fundamental fallacy of theism: assuming a god as a given, and specifically a god that intervenes; it allegedly intended us as the pinnacle of creation, so to achieve that aim by chance is astronomical odds against, it assumes that this god gave us a moral sense or instinct, so without that god, there is no objective morality, and that god has a plan and meaning in life for us, so without that, life has no meaning.
Thus, this is a false argument based on a falacious assumption and thus the wrong questions.

If we are not the intended outcome of evolution but just what we happened to get, odds are 1/1.

If morality is a instinct that can be traced through animals to early humans and more complex moral codes were developed along with a more complex society, communications, political structure and technology. There is no need to postulate a god to have a valid human morality.

It's the same with a meaning in life. The universe has no plan for us; there is no universal meaning or plan for us. Evolution has the only one - survival. Any meanings humans as a species, groups or as individuals, have beyond that are those we devise for ourselves; there is no big invisible dictator telling us what the meanings of our lives should be, and frankly. I'm very glad of it.

[Wootah]

I was hoping for proof not random ramblings.

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

[POI]

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

I continue to finding these types of questions vexing.... Let me first answer the question. But to do so, I need to ask parallel questions to demonstrate the same point.

Does your car have any meaning?
Does your pets have any meaning?
Does your house have any meaning?
Does looking forward to your next vacation have any meaning?

I'd say they all do. We apply 'meaning' to many things. Seems as though the theist thinks life can only have meaning if it is eternal? Is this what you are driving at in this thread?

[AquinasForGod]

I agree with existentialists that have said there is no meaning to life without God.

What they mean is, ultimately there is no meaning, which seems true. Everything you have said or done, everything you have built will one day not be known by anyone. The whole universe will end, big freeze or maybe big crunch and no one will care about anything anymore. Nothing you did by that time will have mattered. No amount of children you raised, no amount of paintings you painted, etc.

It will have all been for the end, which is nothing, just like before your beignning. We would be better off never existing at all.

The only meaning an atheist can hope to find is in temporal things, like the love they have for another. Did it really matter though in the end when there is no one left? There was no theological purpose for humans to exist.

[POI]

I agree with existentialists that have said there is no meaning to life without God.

What they mean is, ultimately there is no meaning, which seems true. Everything you have said or done, everything you have built will one day not be known by anyone. The whole universe will end, big freeze or maybe big crunch and no one will care about anything anymore. Nothing you did by that time will have mattered. No amount of children you raised, no amount of paintings you painted, etc.

It will have all been for the end, which is nothing, just like before your beignning. We would be better off never existing at all.

The only meaning an atheist can hope to find is in temporal things, like the love they have for another. Did it really matter though in the end when there is no one left? There was no theological purpose for humans to exist.

So "true meaning" is to worship your deity eternal?

[AquinasForGod]

I agree with existentialists that have said there is no meaning to life without God.

What they mean is, ultimately there is no meaning, which seems true. Everything you have said or done, everything you have built will one day not be known by anyone. The whole universe will end, big freeze or maybe big crunch and no one will care about anything anymore. Nothing you did by that time will have mattered. No amount of children you raised, no amount of paintings you painted, etc.

It will have all been for the end, which is nothing, just like before your beignning. We would be better off never existing at all.

The only meaning an atheist can hope to find is in temporal things, like the love they have for another. Did it really matter though in the end when there is no one left? There was no theological purpose for humans to exist.

So "true meaning" is to worship your deity eternal?

No. But if we continue to exist, then what we do continues to really matter.

[POI]

I agree with existentialists that have said there is no meaning to life without God.

What they mean is, ultimately there is no meaning, which seems true. Everything you have said or done, everything you have built will one day not be known by anyone. The whole universe will end, big freeze or maybe big crunch and no one will care about anything anymore. Nothing you did by that time will have mattered. No amount of children you raised, no amount of paintings you painted, etc.

It will have all been for the end, which is nothing, just like before your beignning. We would be better off never existing at all.

The only meaning an atheist can hope to find is in temporal things, like the love they have for another. Did it really matter though in the end when there is no one left? There was no theological purpose for humans to exist.

So "true meaning" is to worship your deity eternal?

No. But if we continue to exist, then what we do continues to really matter.

"True meaning' requires eternity?

[POI]

I see this as another one of those topics which places the cart before the horse. EVEN IF one could demonstrate 'meaning' only exists with god, you must FIRST demonstrate that any such god exists. This topic does NOTHING to sway a doubter.

Right now, we are merely exchanging hypotheticals, or arguing over what the real plot of a fictional movie may be....

[Miles]

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

What would you accept as proof? I don't want to go off on irrelevant tangents here.

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