The bible teaches the coming of Gods kingdom is good news, only the wicked in Gods view need to fear its arrival. It begins for all creation when Jesus leads Gods armies to the earth and wipes out all wickedness. Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then loosed for a little while to test the resurrected who are given a chance to learn and apply Gods will.
During that 1000 year reign of Christ, all things will be made new. Gods original plan-Mortals knowing only good, not aging like now, never sick, diseased, never without, no war, hatred, fear, pain, no mates cheating on one another, no drug addiction or drunkeness, no false god worship, no mortal govts,( Dan 2:44) love will be the motive of every heart to one another, perfect harmony amongst all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--Loved ones resurrected and given an opportunity to gain everlasting life. Then- no more death.
One must live now for entrance into that kingdom, and Jesus taught-Matt 7:21-Only those who live now to do his Fathers will over their own will, get to enter his kingdom. How much value do you put on life everlasting like i have described above? It will be on a earth turned into a paradise( Eden) during that 1000 year reign of Christ. But then he hands the kingdom back to his God and Father and subjects himself( 1Cor 15:24-28) then Jehovah is king of eternity.
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Post #31MissKate13 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:41 amWhy do you continue to deny the kingdom is present now? Why do you deny that Jesus is King of Kings, Lord of Lords?Why do you deny that He is reigning now? Why do you deny that His true followers are in His kingdom and are reigning with Him?kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:45 pm The bible teaches the coming of Gods kingdom is good news, only the wicked in Gods view need to fear its arrival. It begins for all creation when Jesus leads Gods armies to the earth and wipes out all wickedness. Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then loosed for a little while to test the resurrected who are given a chance to learn and apply Gods will.
During that 1000 year reign of Christ, all things will be made new. Gods original plan-Mortals knowing only good, not aging like now, never sick, diseased, never without, no war, hatred, fear, pain, no mates cheating on one another, no drug addiction or drunkeness, no false god worship, no mortal govts,( Dan 2:44) love will be the motive of every heart to one another, perfect harmony amongst all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--Loved ones resurrected and given an opportunity to gain everlasting life. Then- no more death.
One must live now for entrance into that kingdom, and Jesus taught-Matt 7:21-Only those who live now to do his Fathers will over their own will, get to enter his kingdom. How much value do you put on life everlasting like i have described above? It will be on a earth turned into a paradise( Eden) during that 1000 year reign of Christ. But then he hands the kingdom back to his God and Father and subjects himself( 1Cor 15:24-28) then Jehovah is king of eternity.
Why do you continue to deny that when Jesus comes again He will deliver said kingdom to the Father at which time He also will be subject to the Father? Why do you deny what the word of God teaches?
24Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
I dont deny the kingdom was established in heaven in 1914, It rules all of heaven. Few on earth live under its rule on earth. 99% are mislead.
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Where, in the Bible other than Revelation 20, is there a 1,000 year period following the return of Christ?
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It is not what Jesus would teach, but what he did and did not teach, in the Gospels.
He did not teach any 1,000 year period following his return.
Neither did Peter or Paul or John or James.
Rev 20:6
The Book of Revelation is not a teaching.
It is a series of visions given to John.
That was avoidance.Twisting it because it shows you are wrong wont get you anywhere.
Where, in the Bible other than Revelation 20, is there a 1,000 year period following the return of Christ?
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Post #33Checkpoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:55 pm [Replying to kjw47 in post #30]
It is not what Jesus would teach, but what he did and did not teach, in the Gospels.
He did not teach any 1,000 year period following his return.
Neither did Peter or Paul or John or James.Rev 20:6The Book of Revelation is not a teaching.
It is a series of visions given to John.That was avoidance.Twisting it because it shows you are wrong wont get you anywhere.
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There doesnt have to be any other place.
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Post #34kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:02 pmCheckpoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:55 pm [Replying to kjw47 in post #30]
It is not what Jesus would teach, but what he did and did not teach, in the Gospels.
He did not teach any 1,000 year period following his return.
Neither did Peter or Paul or John or James.Rev 20:6The Book of Revelation is not a teaching.
It is a series of visions given to John.Twisting it because it shows you are wrong wont get you anywhere.You have given no answer to the above question.That was avoidance.
Where, in the Bible other than Revelation 20, is there a 1,000 year period following the return of Christ?
Why?
Correction - found it!
Really?There doesn't have to be any other place.
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The story you laid out makes assumptions about what the reign is for, and what it achieves.
Further, your explanation of the binding and loosing of Satan completely ignores what is specifically stated about the reason for the binding and loosing.
The reasons you gave for your version have no authority, and no common sense, but rather, are foolish nonsense.
How is it anyone is free to so mistreat the very Word of God in this way?
What you have written about the 1,000 years of Revelation 20 bears no resemblance to what that chapter actually says.Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then loosed for a little while to test the resurrected who are given a chance to learn and apply Gods will.
During that 1000 year reign of Christ, all things will be made new. Gods original plan-Mortals knowing only good, not aging like now, never sick, diseased, never without, no war, hatred, fear, pain, no mates cheating on one another, no drug addiction or drunkeness, no false god worship, no mortal govts,( Dan 2:44) love will be the motive of every heart to one another, perfect harmony amongst all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--Loved ones resurrected and given an opportunity to gain everlasting life. Then- no more death.
One must live now for entrance into that kingdom, and Jesus taught-Matt 7:21-Only those who live now to do his Fathers will over their own will, get to enter his kingdom. How much value do you put on life everlasting like i have described above? It will be on a earth turned into a paradise( Eden) during that 1000 year reign of Christ.
The story you laid out makes assumptions about what the reign is for, and what it achieves.
Further, your explanation of the binding and loosing of Satan completely ignores what is specifically stated about the reason for the binding and loosing.
The reasons you gave for your version have no authority, and no common sense, but rather, are foolish nonsense.
How is it anyone is free to so mistreat the very Word of God in this way?
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Post #36Checkpoint wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:55 am [Replying to kjw47 in post #1]
What you have written about the 1,000 years of Revelation 20 bears no resemblance to what that chapter actually says.Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then loosed for a little while to test the resurrected who are given a chance to learn and apply Gods will.
During that 1000 year reign of Christ, all things will be made new. Gods original plan-Mortals knowing only good, not aging like now, never sick, diseased, never without, no war, hatred, fear, pain, no mates cheating on one another, no drug addiction or drunkeness, no false god worship, no mortal govts,( Dan 2:44) love will be the motive of every heart to one another, perfect harmony amongst all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--Loved ones resurrected and given an opportunity to gain everlasting life. Then- no more death.
One must live now for entrance into that kingdom, and Jesus taught-Matt 7:21-Only those who live now to do his Fathers will over their own will, get to enter his kingdom. How much value do you put on life everlasting like i have described above? It will be on a earth turned into a paradise( Eden) during that 1000 year reign of Christ.
The story you laid out makes assumptions about what the reign is for, and what it achieves.
Further, your explanation of the binding and loosing of Satan completely ignores what is specifically stated about the reason for the binding and loosing.
The reasons you gave for your version have no authority, and no common sense, but rather, are foolish nonsens
How is it anyone is free to so mistreat the very Word of God in this way?
Its you who are lacking of truth.
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Post #37kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:36 pmCheckpoint wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:55 am [Replying to kjw47 in post #1]
Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then loosed for a little while to test the resurrected who are given a chance to learn and apply Gods will.
During that 1000 year reign of Christ, all things will be made new. Gods original plan-Mortals knowing only good, not aging like now, never sick, diseased, never without, no war, hatred, fear, pain, no mates cheating on one another, no drug addiction or drunkeness, no false god worship, no mortal govts,( Dan 2:44) love will be the motive of every heart to one another, perfect harmony amongst all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--Loved ones resurrected and given an opportunity to gain everlasting life. Then- no more death.
One must live now for entrance into that kingdom, and Jesus taught-Matt 7:21-Only those who live now to do his Fathers will over their own will, get to enter his kingdom. How much value do you put on life everlasting like i have described above? It will be on a earth turned into a paradise( Eden) during that 1000 year reign of Christ.What you have written about the 1,000 years of Revelation 20 bears no resemblance to what that chapter actually says.
The story you laid out makes assumptions about what the reign is for, and what it achieves.
Further, your explanation of the binding and loosing of Satan completely ignores what is specifically stated about the reason for the binding and loosing.
The reasons you gave for your version have no authority, and no common sense, but rather, are foolish nonsense.
How is it anyone is free to so mistreat the very Word of God in this way?Enough.Its you who are lacking of truth.1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They a had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will l go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
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Post #38Checkpoint wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:02 pmkjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:36 pmCheckpoint wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:55 am [Replying to kjw47 in post #1]
Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then loosed for a little while to test the resurrected who are given a chance to learn and apply Gods will.
During that 1000 year reign of Christ, all things will be made new. Gods original plan-Mortals knowing only good, not aging like now, never sick, diseased, never without, no war, hatred, fear, pain, no mates cheating on one another, no drug addiction or drunkeness, no false god worship, no mortal govts,( Dan 2:44) love will be the motive of every heart to one another, perfect harmony amongst all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--Loved ones resurrected and given an opportunity to gain everlasting life. Then- no more death.
One must live now for entrance into that kingdom, and Jesus taught-Matt 7:21-Only those who live now to do his Fathers will over their own will, get to enter his kingdom. How much value do you put on life everlasting like i have described above? It will be on a earth turned into a paradise( Eden) during that 1000 year reign of Christ.What you have written about the 1,000 years of Revelation 20 bears no resemblance to what that chapter actually says.
The story you laid out makes assumptions about what the reign is for, and what it achieves.
Further, your explanation of the binding and loosing of Satan completely ignores what is specifically stated about the reason for the binding and loosing.
The reasons you gave for your version have no authority, and no common sense, but rather, are foolish nonsense.
How is it anyone is free to so mistreat the very Word of God in this way?Enough.Its you who are lacking of truth.1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They a had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will l go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
And what point are you making?
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Post #39[Replying to kjw47 in post #38]
Maybe you will find it if I take you by the hand?
Are you ready and willing?
I am!
What is the point you are making?
Your question illustrates this. That you asked it means you have already lost the plot.Enough.
Maybe you will find it if I take you by the hand?
Are you ready and willing?
I am!
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Post #40Checkpoint wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:26 pm [Replying to kjw47 in post #38]
What is the point you are making?Your question illustrates this. That you asked it means you have already lost the plot.Enough.
Maybe you will find it if I take you by the hand?
Cant remember huh?