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The good news of Gods kingdom

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Yes it really is good news, the coming of Gods kingdom rule to all creation. Only the wicked fear its arrival.
Jesus will lead Gods armies to the earth and bring that kingdom rule with him. Satan will be captured and abyssed for 1000 years. During that time, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise)--mankind will go back to perfection, never sick, never without, not aging like now. No more- war, hatred, fear, abuse, sickness, disease, afflictions like blindness, etc) no cheating on mates, drunkeness, drug addiction, no false god worship, Gods kingdom rule will be a cure all. Even dead love ones resurrected and some given a chance to learn and apply Gods will. But then satan is loosed for a little while to test the resurrected ones, many( Gog of Magog- will fall as the sands of the sea( rev 20:8) the bible says. Then satan and all who were mislead by him will be destroyed forever in the lake of fire. And death will be no more, neither will mourning, outcries or pain. Gods kingdom rule in full control forever, all motives of mortal hearts out of love, not profit. Perfect harmony from all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--- Eternal life of happiness. This will be on earth.( Matt 5:5, Psalm 37:29)

Will you live for entrance into that kingdom now?

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Diogenes wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:35 pm It might have been good news, but then, according to the 'Gospels,' Jesus continued by saying He'd come in his 'Kingdom' soon. That was said about 2000 years ago. Looks like he isn't coming at all. This is bad news about "God's Kingdom."

When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next; for truly I tell you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
— Matthew 10:23

But truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.
— Luke 9:27

for these are days of vengeance, as a fulfillment of all that is written.
— Luke 21:22

Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.
— Matthew 16:28,

Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place.
— Matthew 24:34


He established His kingdom AD 33.

If you care to know more, read the following verses in their context. Jesus established His kingdom in the first century AD. His followers were living under His reign and rule and continue to do so.

Colossians 1:13, Revelation 1:9, 1 Thessalonians 2:12, Hebrews 12:28, Revelation 1:6, 1 Corinthians 15:24-25, Luke 22:28-30, Luke 17:20-21,Matthew 12:28.

If you’re interested in what these verses have to say, and you wish to discuss them further, let me know.
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Re: The good news of Gods kingdom

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MissKate13 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:02 am
He established His kingdom AD 33.

If you care to know more, read the following verses in their context. Jesus established His kingdom in the first century AD. His followers were living under His reign and rule and continue to do so.

Colossians 1:13, Revelation 1:9, 1 Thessalonians 2:12, Hebrews 12:28, Revelation 1:6, 1 Corinthians 15:24-25, Luke 22:28-30, Luke 17:20-21,Matthew 12:28.

If you’re interested in what these verses have to say, and you wish to discuss them further, let me know.
Your condescension is noted.
If you’re interested in what these verses have to say, and you wish to discuss them further, let me know. ;)

He established His kingdom AD 33?

Wrong.
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”
_ John 18:36

When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next; for truly I tell you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
— Matthew 10:23

But truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.
— Luke 9:27

Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.
— Matthew 16:28,

Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place.
— Matthew 24:34

The context of this verse proves Jesus was referring to the future re: the establishment of "his Kingdom," Matthew 24:29-30

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."


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Re: The good news of Gods kingdom

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Diogenes wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:35 pm
MissKate13 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:02 am
He established His kingdom AD 33.

If you care to know more, read the following verses in their context. Jesus established His kingdom in the first century AD. His followers were living under His reign and rule and continue to do so.

Colossians 1:13, Revelation 1:9, 1 Thessalonians 2:12, Hebrews 12:28, Revelation 1:6, 1 Corinthians 15:24-25, Luke 22:28-30, Luke 17:20-21,Matthew 12:28.

If you’re interested in what these verses have to say, and you wish to discuss them further, let me know.
Your condescension is noted.
If you’re interested in what these verses have to say, and you wish to discuss them further, let me know. ;)

He established His kingdom AD 33?

Wrong.
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”
_ John 18:36

Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world" because his royal seat is in heaven. He will always rule from heaven, over the earth. He hadn't set up his Kingdom government yet in the first century. (Isaiah 9:6,7; Daniel 2:44) When he does, the earth will be rid of all wickedness and Paradise will be here.

Luke 9:27 has been very much misunderstood. Jesus was speaking of the Transfiguration that Peter, James, and John would witness eight days later. "About eight days after these words, he took Peter and John and James along and climbed up into the mountain to pray. And as he was praying the appearance of his face became different and his apparel became glitteringly white." (Luke 9:28) This is what Jesus meant in verse number 27. They would see him as he will be coming to set up his kingdom after Armageddon, when he will be in the spirit realm and in unapproachable light. (I Timothy 6:16)

The Kingdom is soon to be a reality over all the earth, though right now that is not the case. All other governments must be destroyed, and Satan will be put into the "abyss." Jesus instructs us to pray for the Kingdom to COME as we see at Matthew 6:9,10. Look up again Daniel 2:44 and Isaiah 9:6,7 which speak of the Kingdom as coming later on when Jesus' government takes over from other governments and there is true peace. After all, the Kingdom is a real government, with Christ as the ruler, with his co-rulers (Revelation 20:6).

Daniel "kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man (Jesus) happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days (YHWH) he gained access....And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin. (Daniel 7:13,14)...The holy ones of the Supreme One (YHWH) will receive the kingdom, and they will take possession of the kingdom for time indefinite." (Verse 18)

It is truly a very physical system of government that will be guiding the billions of people living on the earth, after Armageddon. It is not just in someone's heart.

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Re: The good news of Gods kingdom

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Condescension was not my intent. Sorry you took it that way. My point was to show with those Scriptures that the kingdom is present now. I was sincerely asking you to read each one in its context.

Jesus is ruling and reigning from heaven over His kingdom now. (1 Corinthians 15:24-28)

How else could Paul have written the following if the kingdom weren’t present? “13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. (Colossians 1:13-14)

How could John say that he was a brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom if the kingdom weren’t present? “I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” (Rev. 1:9)

Jesus said, “ “Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God arrive with power.” (Mark 9:1)

But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:27)

Some of the Jews would still be alive when they would see the kingdom of God come with power, and indeed they did. They heard the sound of the mighty rushing wing. They heard the apostles speaking in tongues.

Three-thousand believed Peter’s message were baptized, and the Lord added them to His church, which is an aspect of the kingdom.
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Re: The good news of Gods kingdom

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Miles wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:14 pm
kjw47 wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:17 pm
Miles wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:07 am
kjw47 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:14 pm


Trinity religions do not correct errors. Every trinity scholar on earth knows 100% a capitol G God in the last line at John 1:1 is error according to their own Greek Lexicons. They know 100% No Israelite who served the true God ever served a trinity, not Jesus nor any bible writer. It would expose the house divided(40,000 trinity religions) that will not stand as false religions, Billions $$$$$ would be lost yearly . And most likely 2 billion humans suing them for taking their money under false teachings.
So, what are they, all liars? Kind of like the Governing Body of the Jehovah's Witnesses

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that knows 100 % they are among the lucky 144,000 because . . . . . . . . . . because . . . . . . well . . . just because.


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They do know. Gods word assures, the holy spirit bears witness with their spirit that they are apart of that group. As well no matter what any man says contrary--the teachings of Jesus and true God worship history back the JW,s all the way. So where does that leave the rest?
So everyone of them is from a tribe of Israel as required in Revelation 7:1-8?

Revelation 7:1-8
After this I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth, so that no wind could blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the sunrise,* having a seal of the living God; and he called with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying: “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed+ the slaves of our God in their foreheads.”+ 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000,+ sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel:+

5
Out of the tribe of Judah 12,000 sealed;
out of the tribe of Reuʹben 12,000;
out of the tribe of Gad 12,000;
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out of the tribe of Ashʹer 12,000;
out of the tribe of Naphʹta·li 12,000;
out of the tribe of Ma·nasʹseh+ 12,000;
7
out of the tribe of Simʹe·on 12,000;
out of the tribe of Leʹvi 12,000;
out of the tribe of Isʹsa·char 12,000;
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out of the tribe of Zebʹu·lun 12,000;
out of the tribe of Joseph 12,000;
out of the tribe of Benjamin 12,000 sealed.


How do they know? The tribes, from which they would have to have been a member, disappeared a couple of thousand years ago.

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That is symbolism--Literal Israel is cut off of being Gods chosen-Matt 23:38-39)--Spiritual Israel is now Gods chosen.

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MissKate13 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:57 am [Replying to kjw47 in post #37]

kjw47 wrote,

Yes Gods kingdom rule began in 1914. According to the prophecy in Daniel. 2520 years from the removal of the last king in Jerusalem= 607 bce+ 2520= 1914--See Rev 6:2--He recieves his crown--Rev 6:4- and peace will be taken from the earth= ww1-Proving 1914 is correct as the birth of Gods kingdom in heaven.[/quote]

Nice try!

Jesus has been ruling and reigning since the first century A.D. His followers were and are in His kingdom.
(Colossians 1:13, Revelation 1:9, 1 Thessalonians 2:12, Hebrews 12:28, Revelation 1:6, 1 Corinthians 15:24-25, Luke 22:28-30, Luke 17:20-21, Matthew 12:28)

Jesus is reigning and ruling over His kingdom NOW!

25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.26The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Jesus is ruler over all! Kings and citizens!

Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. (Revelation 1:5)
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Then you are saying God lied through the holy spirit concerning that prophecy in Daniel?
Yes he is ruling now, since 1914when he received his crown.

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No. God did not lie through the Holy Spirit.

Scripture cannot contradict Scripture. Your view of Daniel contradicts the literal language of all the Scriptures from the New Testament I gave you showing the kingdom is present NOW.

In Daniel 2: 36-45, Daniel gives the interpretation to the dream. He reveals that each of the metals is a description of the coming world kingdoms. The head of gold is Nebuchadnezzar, King of the Babylonian Empire (2:36-38). A kingdom after him would arise (Medo-Persia), and another kingdom after it (Greece). Notice that no attention is placed on these kingdoms. The attention goes to the fourth kingdom in verse 40 (the Roman Empire). It will be a crushing kingdom that crushes all other kingdoms but even in its strength it will not hold together. It would be a divided Kingdom.

Daniel 2: 44-45. “In the days of those kings,” a reference to this fourth kingdom (the Roman Empire), God will set up a kingdom. This would be a kingdom that would never be destroyed nor left to another people. God’s kingdom would be established and it could never be overthrown. Unlike the dream where kingdom conquered kingdom, this kingdom that God sets up will never be destroyed nor given to another people.

This interpretation of Daniel 2 was is how we reconcile all the Scriptures I shared with you from the New Testament.. There is no contradiction between Daniel’s prophecy and the New Testament Scriptures that tell us Jesus’ kingdom was set up in 33 AD, when the Roman Empire was ruling.
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MissKate13 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:28 pm [Replying to kjw47 in post #46]

No. God did not lie through the Holy Spirit.

Scripture cannot contradict Scripture. Your view of Daniel contradicts the literal language of all the Scriptures from the New Testament I gave you showing the kingdom is present NOW.

In Daniel 2: 36-45, Daniel gives the interpretation to the dream. He reveals that each of the metals is a description of the coming world kingdoms. The head of gold is Nebuchadnezzar, King of the Babylonian Empire (2:36-38). A kingdom after him would arise (Medo-Persia), and another kingdom after it (Greece). Notice that no attention is placed on these kingdoms. The attention goes to the fourth kingdom in verse 40 (the Roman Empire). It will be a crushing kingdom that crushes all other kingdoms but even in its strength it will not hold together. It would be a divided Kingdom.

Daniel 2: 44-45. “In the days of those kings,” a reference to this fourth kingdom (the Roman Empire), God will set up a kingdom. This would be a kingdom that would never be destroyed nor left to another people. God’s kingdom would be established and it could never be overthrown. Unlike the dream where kingdom conquered kingdom, this kingdom that God sets up will never be destroyed nor given to another people.

This interpretation of Daniel 2 was is how we reconcile all the Scriptures I shared with you from the New Testament.. There is no contradiction between Daniel’s prophecy and the New Testament Scriptures that tell us Jesus’ kingdom was set up in 33 AD, when the Roman Empire was ruling.

Yes a divided kingdom= the 2 horned beast of Rev 13 not the roman empire. It may have had a minor fulfillment back then, in that without the sacrifice Jesus made there would be no kingdom. That enabled the kingdom to become a reality. But Jesus gets the crown at Rev 6:2=1914

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The Scriptures are our witness. They show the kingdom being present and Jesus ruling since the first century AD.

Sadly, you deny the Scriptures in favor of Watchtower nonsense.
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The good news of God's Kingdom is Christ.


Through Christ, we can be reconciled to God (even be invited into the new Covenant with God). Through Christ - the Tree of Life from whom we must eat in order to live forever - we have life in us, even eternal life. Through Christ, we have forgiveness of sins and through Christ, we are saved from Death. We are even invited to be part of the New Covenant (through Christ, the mediator of the new covenant). We can even know God Himself - even become SONS of God, Himself.

Do you see?

Christ - whose name is Jaheshua (meaning JAH saves) - is himself the Good News (Gospel) of the Kingdom.


A paradise on earth is one good thing to come as a result, but without Christ, we would have none of it! If Christ had not given His life as a ransom for us, we would still be in slavery/subjection to death. Our focus - our eyes, our heart, our ears - is meant to be upon Christ, who is the LIFE, the King of all God's Kingdom, the beloved Son and Chosen One of JAH.


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