Define "Evidence"

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Define "Evidence"

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Define "evidence"

Ill give a start.

Evidence is anything used to support a claim.

Bonus question.
What is the defining factors of "no evidence" for something?

Does your definition of evidence, and no evidence, hold up to all things objectively?
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Re: Define "Evidence"

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Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.

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Re: Define "Evidence"

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Athetotheist wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:25 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #1
Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.
How would you know if some evidence actually supports a claim?
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Re: Define "Evidence"

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Shem Yoshi wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:43 pm
Athetotheist wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:25 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #1
Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.
How would you know if some evidence actually supports a claim?
Snow on the ground first thing in the morning is evidence that it snowed during the night. Your dog having four legs isn't.

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Re: Define "Evidence"

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Athetotheist wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:51 pm
Shem Yoshi wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:43 pm
Athetotheist wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:25 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #1
Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.
How would you know if some evidence actually supports a claim?
Snow on the ground first thing in the morning is evidence that it snowed during the night. Your dog having four legs isn't.
you are pointing out a logical absurdity, but sometimes things aren't that clear.

Are you saying there is never error in evidence leading to truth? And i want your honest opinion. think about it, this is not a debate thread it is a discussion thread.
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Are you saying there is never error in evidence leading to truth? And i want your honest opinion.
Are you saying that we can just ignore errors which don't lead to the "truth" we want to find? I want your honest opinion too.

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Athetotheist wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:53 am [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #5
Are you saying there is never error in evidence leading to truth? And i want your honest opinion.
Are you saying that we can just ignore errors which don't lead to the "truth" we want to find? I want your honest opinion too.
Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.
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Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.
That's why evidence has to be examined----first to make sure that it is evidence, then to determine how reliable that evidence is.

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Athetotheist wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:29 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #7
Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.
That's why evidence has to be examined----first to make sure that it is evidence, then to determine how reliable that evidence is.
But anyone rationality can fail them.

How do you know what is evidence, and what is not?
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Shem Yoshi wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:18 pm
Athetotheist wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:29 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #7
Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.
That's why evidence has to be examined----first to make sure that it is evidence, then to determine how reliable that evidence is.
But anyone rationality can fail them.

How do you know what is evidence, and what is not?
Observable conditions or events which lead to likely conclusions about their origins are evidence of those origins.

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