Try to Disprove Genesis 1:1

[YourWordIsTruth]

The Holy Bible opens with the Words: "In the beginning God Created the heavens and the earth", Genesis 1:1

I would like to see anyone try and disprove this

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #30

Hi, so why warn us in public intead of in a private message? this rule is not right

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." (Romans 13:1)

[YourWordIsTruth]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #30

Hi, so why warn us in public intead of in a private message? this rule is not right

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." (Romans 13:1)

Including Adolf Hitler?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #30

Hi, so why warn us in public intead of in a private message? this rule is not right

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." (Romans 13:1)

Including Adolf Hitler?

Hey----you're the one who said,

the Holy Bible is the ONLY real Answer!

[YourWordIsTruth]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #30

Hi, so why warn us in public intead of in a private message? this rule is not right

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." (Romans 13:1)

Including Adolf Hitler?

Hey----you're the one who said,

the Holy Bible is the ONLY real Answer!

But it is you who has misused the passages from Romans 13!

Here in the UK, the "law" says that homosexuality is "normal"; the Bible says it is SIN. The Lord did NOT put those in authority here, who disregard and reject His own Laws!

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #34

Here in the UK, the "law" says that homosexuality is "normal"; the Bible says it is SIN. The Lord did NOT put those in authority here, who disregard and reject His own Laws!

Then how can you consider Romans 13:1 correct?

[YourWordIsTruth]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #34

Here in the UK, the "law" says that homosexuality is "normal"; the Bible says it is SIN. The Lord did NOT put those in authority here, who disregard and reject His own Laws!

Then how can you consider Romans 13:1 correct?

It is speaking of those human authorities that God has Himself palced there, not every single one.

There are many kings in the OT, that God placed in their position, and many who He did not, and even removed and destroyed them

Like David, and Ahab, two completely opposites

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #36

It is speaking of those human authorities that God has Himself palced there, not every single one.

There are many kings in the OT, that God placed in their position, and many who He did not, and even removed and destroyed them

Like David, and Ahab, two completely opposites

Then why does it say that....
"there is no authority except that which God has established"?

You know......like, "no remission of sin without the shedding of blood".

[YourWordIsTruth]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #36

It is speaking of those human authorities that God has Himself palced there, not every single one.

There are many kings in the OT, that God placed in their position, and many who He did not, and even removed and destroyed them

Like David, and Ahab, two completely opposites

Then why does it say that....
"there is no authority except that which God has established"?

You know......like, "no remission of sin without the shedding of blood".

Romans 13:3 is clear that the "No authority" cannot be taken in the literal sense, to mean ALL authorities, and every case

"For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you"

Here we have these "authorities", who punish people for doing what is wrong, and not what is right.

The Bible is very clear, that homosexuality is SINFUL, and therefore is WRONG. Yet, how many governments do we know in the "Western World", that will punish homosexuals? In fact, governments are actively SUPPORTING these SINFUL people, by funding their "PRIDE"!!!, and providing events for them to be "PROUD" of their SINS!

Verse 2 says, "Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment"

So, are we to understand this to mean, that if Bible-believing Christians, oppose the EVIL of homosexuality, which the Bible calls an "abomination" with God, they will be punished by God for following His very clear Teachings in His Word?

In Acts chapter 4, Peter and John were before the Jewish leaders, and they are clearly warned in verses 17-18, "But in order that it may spread no further among the people, let us warn them to speak no more to anyone in this name. So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus.”. To which Peter and John reponds, "But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.” (verses 19-20). Here is a very clear example, where an AUTHORITY has forbidden preaching using the Name of Jesus Christ, which Peter and John refuse to obey, and they say that they have been ordered to do so by God Himself! The "authority" of humans is rejected by the "Authority" of God! In the UK people have been arrested for preaching the Gospel Message!

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[Athetotheist]

[Replying to YourWordIsTruth in post #38

Verse 2 says, "Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment"

So, are we to understand this to mean, that if Bible-believing Christians, oppose the EVIL of homosexuality, which the Bible calls an "abomination" with God, they will be punished by God for following His very clear Teachings in His Word?

That's your dilemma, isn't it?

"For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you"

Do you think this is true? If you're doing what's right, are they honoring you?