Please prove that souls exist and that they are either resurrected or reincarnated

[Compassionist]

Most religions claim that souls exist. Some religions claim that souls are immortal and are reincarnated after the death of the body while other religions claim that souls are immortal and are resurrected after the death of the body. Can anyone please prove that souls exist and are either resurrected or reincarnated? Thank you.

[brunumb]

So what would be the proof that there isn't a soul ?
It's an equal balance.

No, it's not. Non-existence of anything is the default position. Everything that does not exist does not require evidence to demonstrate its non-existence. That would be an absurd requirement. But, as soon as something is proposed to exist there must be some reason for that proposition. Then, to establish the truth of that proposition as distinct from some ambient claim, it is necessary to produce compelling evidence to establish that truth. As far as I'm concerned nothing has been presented that irrefutably establishes the existence of souls. If you have the evidence that does that, this is the place to present it.

[Compassionist]

I believe that when you die , God takes control of your soul and deals with it at his discretion.
Also if a person doesn't believe they have a soul , then they can definitely look forward to a 'dead', end.
I rather look forward towards a living (and loving) new beginning.

I'm curious, but how much money per year do you think it costs you to hold this belief? Rougly 10% of your income?
The phrase 'pot committed' comes to mind. Unless of course you have an actual reason to believe in a soul and not just some hope for one so a god of sorts can take control of it after you die. IMO, that would be very weak reasoning.

However without a soul , I feel that a person is nothing more than an organic robot.

And you believe this without even knowing if a soul is a thing that humans have.
I have some ocean front property for sale in Arizona for real cheap! Interested?

So what would be the proof that there isn't a soul ?
It's an equal balance. Until God tips the scales.

He has for me.

I don't belong to a physical church, I never have.
My persual of thuth led me to Jesus and God.
I'll never look back.

Please refer to my previous argument for a soul. Are we alive within ourselves?
by wannabe » Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:41 pm » in Philosophy.
And if you could, please provide an argument for the non-existence of a soul ?
That would be nice.

It's impossible to prove the non-existence of anything that does not exist. Can you prove that fairies, leprechauns, unicorns, and angels don't exist? You can't. The burden of proof for the existence of something is on the person claiming that it exists. You are claiming that souls exist. Therefore, you must prove with evidence that souls exist. If I were to claim that fairies exist, then the burden of proof would be on me to prove with evidence that fairies exist.

[wannabe]

[Replying to Compassionist in post #12]

Every living person is evidence to the existence of souls.
If this evidence is false, please prove it.

So if we have no soul, what is it that leaves behind a dead body, is life nothing ?

[Compassionist]

[Replying to Compassionist in post #12]

Every living person is evidence to the existence of souls.
If this evidence is false, please prove it.

So if we have no soul, what is it that leaves behind a dead body, is life nothing ?

No, it's not. I have seen lots of bodies of humans and other organisms. I have never seen any souls. If you can show souls, please do. Our consciousness is produced as a result of the activities of our brains. There is no evidence for the existence of souls.

[wannabe]

[Replying to Compassionist in post #12]

Every living person is evidence to the existence of souls.
If this evidence is false, please prove it.

So if we have no soul, what is it that leaves behind a dead body, is life nothing ?

No, it's not. I have seen lots of bodies of humans and other organisms. I have never seen any souls. If you can show souls, please do. Our consciousness is produced as a result of the activities of our brains. There is no evidence for the existence of souls.

So everything you have just stated is entirely your assumption. Correct.

[brunumb]

Every living person is evidence to the existence of souls.

No. Every living person is evidence of the existence of humans. No sign of any souls. When they die, they cease to be living beings. Still no sign of souls.

[wannabe]

Every living person is evidence to the existence of souls.

No. Every living person is evidence of the existence of humans. No sign of any souls. When they die, they cease to be living beings. Still no sign of souls.

When I see humans , I see living souls.
I guess it comes down to interpretation.

[Compassionist]

Every living person is evidence to the existence of souls.

No. Every living person is evidence of the existence of humans. No sign of any souls. When they die, they cease to be living beings. Still no sign of souls.

When I see humans , I see living souls.
I guess it comes down to interpretation.

You are mislabelling bodies to be souls. Do you also see souls when you see trees or cows or dogs or fish or whales or rocks? Panpsychists claim that everything is conscious. They can't prove it but they still believe it.

[JoeyKnothead]

Every living person is evidence to the existence of souls.
If this evidence is false, please prove it.

For them unaware, this is the common tactic of asserting a claim, sans evidence, then shifting the burden of proof onto others to disprove what the claimant hasn't proven.

It's a tactic common to them who believe "on faith", and who ain't been debating too long.

So if we have no soul, what is it that leaves behind a dead body, is life nothing ?

Notice how the assertion is merely restated as a question, still moving the burden onto anyone but the claimant.

Where has anyone established a 'soul' exists, as commonly defined in theist circles?

Now before someone jumps, that question there doesn't imply or assert that souls don't exist, only that James Brown is dead, and may the gods rest his soul.

[Clownboat]

When I see humans , I see living souls.
I guess it comes down to interpretation.

Got it. English must not be your native language and that is fine.

Humans are the physical beings we see in our daily lives. When you see humans, you are in fact seeing humans. Souls are an entirely different concept and cannot be interchange with the word human. Continuing to do so will only confuse you and possibly others further.