Jesus said to believe so you will see God’s glory. Now many believe it is after you die but no, a misunderstanding.
If you have not seen the glory of God then what you think is believing is not really believing.
John 11:40 NRS
40 Jesus said to her, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would see the glory of God?"
So, do you believe?
Have you seen God’s glory?
Have you seen God’s glory?
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Post #11Did Jesus say that to Martha, or to everyone?Bobcat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:25 pm Jesus said to believe so you will see God’s glory. Now many believe it is after you die but no, a misunderstanding.
If you have not seen the glory of God then what you think is believing is not really believing.
John 11:40 NRS
40 Jesus said to her, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would see the glory of God?"
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Post #12You cited John 11:40. Can you explain what Jesus meant by “you will see the glory of God” in that passage? What exactly did Martha and the others see?Bobcat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:25 pm Jesus said to believe so you will see God’s glory. Now many believe it is after you die but no, a misunderstanding.
If you have not seen the glory of God then what you think is believing is not really believing.
John 11:40 NRS
40 Jesus said to her, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would see the glory of God?"
So, do you believe?
Have you seen God’s glory?
”For unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24
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Post #13Good question!
Jesus spoke the words to Martha, but everyone saw God’s glory when Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead.
Seeing God’s glory was in the miracle He performed.
Context is everything!
”For unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24
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Post #15I am doing the works that Jesus did. I participate in going door to door with the message of the Kingdom (Matthew 24:14) just as he did. No one else does this....no other religion. You can say Mormons, but they do not do it consistently nor do they speak about God's Kingdom (as Jesus did....e.g. the Our Father prayer). Now, how do you think that I am thinking like man?Bobcat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:10 pmNo. You fail to believe because you think like man not like God.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:53 pm [Replying to Bobcat in post #1]
Jesus was referring to what God would accomplish, through him. When we believe, we see with our understanding eyes all that Jesus has done for the glory of his Father. (John 8:50,54; Phil.2:11)
Since you do not believe you cannot see.
“He who believes in me shall do the works I do…”
Do the works and believe.
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Post #16I have not seen Jehovah's Witnesses going 'door to door' for a decade. Only standing on street corners in high streets with placards like the 18th century messengers of doom for mankind.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:06 am
I am doing the works that Jesus did. I participate in going door to door with the message of the Kingdom
And offering their magazines.
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Post #17And did you notice here that they, themselves, don't know what the Bible really teaches? Kind of telling, don't you think?Ross wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:38 pmI have not seen Jehovah's Witnesses going 'door to door' for a decade. Only standing on street corners in high streets with placards like the 18th century messengers of doom for mankind.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:06 am
I am doing the works that Jesus did. I participate in going door to door with the message of the Kingdom
And offering their magazines.
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Post #18To Martha but it is for everyone.1213 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:40 amDid Jesus say that to Martha, or to everyone?Bobcat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:25 pm Jesus said to believe so you will see God’s glory. Now many believe it is after you die but no, a misunderstanding.
If you have not seen the glory of God then what you think is believing is not really believing.
John 11:40 NRS
40 Jesus said to her, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would see the glory of God?"
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Post #19No. God’s glory is not seeing miracles. Much deeper.MissKate13 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:07 amGood question!
Jesus spoke the words to Martha, but everyone saw God’s glory when Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead.
Seeing God’s glory was in the miracle He performed.
Context is everything!
They did not need to believe the miracle, they saw it.
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Post #20Your preaching the wrong kingdom.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:06 amI am doing the works that Jesus did. I participate in going door to door with the message of the Kingdom (Matthew 24:14) just as he did. No one else does this....no other religion. You can say Mormons, but they do not do it consistently nor do they speak about God's Kingdom (as Jesus did....e.g. the Our Father prayer). Now, how do you think that I am thinking like man?Bobcat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:10 pmNo. You fail to believe because you think like man not like God.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:53 pm [Replying to Bobcat in post #1]
Jesus was referring to what God would accomplish, through him. When we believe, we see with our understanding eyes all that Jesus has done for the glory of his Father. (John 8:50,54; Phil.2:11)
Since you do not believe you cannot see.
“He who believes in me shall do the works I do…”
Do the works and believe.
You think like man because of your response about God’s glory.
“Whoever seeks the glory of the One who sent him is truthful and there is no unrighteousness in him.”