20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

[Compassionist]

Please see Do you agree? Do you disagree? If you disagree, what is the basis for your disagreement?

[Shem Yoshi]

after little consideration of the hour long video i didnt see, id have to say i dont agree at all... My basis is that I believe the Bible is foundational

[TRANSPONDER]

after little consideration of the hour long video i didnt see, id have to say i dont agree at all... My basis is that I believe the Bible is foundational

Thank you for your response. For me, the video was spot on other than one of the points I felt was out of context. But the argument is well taken that while the OT is pretty awful as a guide to morality, the NT, touted by Christian apologists as All New, in fact isn't in many cases, like slavery and disregard for women, and even adds worse, like rejecting family for the cult, making yourself a willing victim, like few Christians I have EVER seen do, and aside from self -mutilation (which surely Matthew can't have meant literally) the most Foundational message of the NT :- give us all your money and subject yourselves to us, the ministry.

While I agree that the NT is Foundational, I don't agree that makes it right or even good.

[Compassionist]

after little consideration of the hour long video i didnt see, id have to say i dont agree at all... My basis is that I believe the Bible is foundational

The Bible is false and unethical. I don't know how Christians simply turn a blind eye to all the atrocities committed by God and his followers in the Bible. Please see https://www.evilbible.com

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...the most Foundational message of the NT :- give us all your money and subject yourselves to us, the ministry.
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Please show where is that said in the Bible?

[Shem Yoshi]

after little consideration of the hour long video i didnt see, id have to say i dont agree at all... My basis is that I believe the Bible is foundational

Thank you for your response. For me, the video was spot on other than one of the points I felt was out of context. But the argument is well taken that while the OT is pretty awful as a guide to morality, the NT, touted by Christian apologists as All New, in fact isn't in many cases, like slavery and disregard for women, and even adds worse, like rejecting family for the cult, making yourself a willing victim, like few Christians I have EVER seen do, and aside from self -mutilation (which surely Matthew can't have meant literally) the most Foundational message of the NT :- give us all your money and subject yourselves to us, the ministry.

While I agree that the NT is Foundational, I don't agree that makes it right or even good.

Im just saying man, if you write a 20 page habeas corpus to the courts, they just dismiss it without even reading it on any technical ground. As much as I appreciate the Cosmic Skeptic, some of the videos are just too long with a bunch of points I have already heard...

As for what you said, I find a hard time coming to a conclusion that morality has a foundation in society. I dont believe in appeal to emotions, nor polarity, nor social norms, nor the government or claimed authority... They are all problematic...

the Bible on the other hand is perfect.

[Shem Yoshi]

after little consideration of the hour long video i didnt see, id have to say i dont agree at all... My basis is that I believe the Bible is foundational

The Bible is false and unethical. I don't know how Christians simply turn a blind eye to all the atrocities committed by God and his followers in the Bible. Please see https://www.evilbible.com

The real question is how can man ignore his own short comings, limitations, or sins in the interpretation of external events?

What are we to believe, perfect morality (or an understanding of morality) comes from you? Surely no one can believe that, right?

[TRANSPONDER]

after little consideration of the hour long video i didnt see, id have to say i dont agree at all... My basis is that I believe the Bible is foundational

Thank you for your response. For me, the video was spot on other than one of the points I felt was out of context. But the argument is well taken that while the OT is pretty awful as a guide to morality, the NT, touted by Christian apologists as All New, in fact isn't in many cases, like slavery and disregard for women, and even adds worse, like rejecting family for the cult, making yourself a willing victim, like few Christians I have EVER seen do, and aside from self -mutilation (which surely Matthew can't have meant literally) the most Foundational message of the NT :- give us all your money and subject yourselves to us, the ministry.

While I agree that the NT is Foundational, I don't agree that makes it right or even good.

Im just saying man, if you write a 20 page habeas corpus to the courts, they just dismiss it without even reading it on any technical ground. As much as I appreciate the Cosmic Skeptic, some of the videos are just too long with a bunch of points I have already heard...

As for what you said, I find a hard time coming to a conclusion that morality has a foundation in society. I dont believe in appeal to emotions, nor polarity, nor social norms, nor the government or claimed authority... They are all problematic...

the Bible on the other hand is perfect.

A perfect shambles, you mean. I have a hard time accepting your claim that the court will not read a 20 point document that might debunk an accusation because it is too long, but I have no trouble at all in supposing that you won't watch a video rather shorter than a Megachurch service that contains some things you would rather not hear. Neither do I have a problem in accepting human life, society and ethics for what it is, rather than improbable faithclaims based on what you have been taught to believe.

[Shem Yoshi]

after little consideration of the hour long video i didnt see, id have to say i dont agree at all... My basis is that I believe the Bible is foundational

Thank you for your response. For me, the video was spot on other than one of the points I felt was out of context. But the argument is well taken that while the OT is pretty awful as a guide to morality, the NT, touted by Christian apologists as All New, in fact isn't in many cases, like slavery and disregard for women, and even adds worse, like rejecting family for the cult, making yourself a willing victim, like few Christians I have EVER seen do, and aside from self -mutilation (which surely Matthew can't have meant literally) the most Foundational message of the NT :- give us all your money and subject yourselves to us, the ministry.

While I agree that the NT is Foundational, I don't agree that makes it right or even good.

Im just saying man, if you write a 20 page habeas corpus to the courts, they just dismiss it without even reading it on any technical ground. As much as I appreciate the Cosmic Skeptic, some of the videos are just too long with a bunch of points I have already heard...

As for what you said, I find a hard time coming to a conclusion that morality has a foundation in society. I dont believe in appeal to emotions, nor polarity, nor social norms, nor the government or claimed authority... They are all problematic...

the Bible on the other hand is perfect.

A perfect shambles, you mean. I have a hard time accepting your claim that the court will not read a 20 point document that might debunk an accusation because it is too long, but I have no trouble at all in supposing that you won't watch a video rather shorter than a Megachurch service that contains some things you would rather not hear. Neither do I have a problem in accepting human life, society and ethics for what it is, rather than improbable faithclaims based on what you have been taught to believe.

The court did it to me. First hand experience, and i was told why, it was too long, what you are having a hard time accepting could be actually true, imagine that... That is all besides the point... (and the video is too long, simple as that)....

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #9]


As in many anecdotal claims I have to have reservations as I can make no sense of a court submission rejected for that reason. The council would object and a shortened version could be provided. Not refusalto listen and that's the end of it. You could just listen to the first five, couldn't you?