20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
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20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #1Please see Do you agree? Do you disagree? If you disagree, what is the basis for your disagreement?
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #141HEY! Look over there. It's a pigeon.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #142So is yours, if Islam is true. Tell me why you don't believe that religion. Hint - we already did 'Muslims don't recognise Jesus' (yours or someone else). and that doesn't work. Not least because the Jews don't either so that's Christianity outvoted.kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:11 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pmOr as I say, it is a tall story, like a lot of Genesis. Why should I think the talking serpent story is true?kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:22 pm
Serpents cant speak-thus 1+1= 2
Your life everlasting is on the line, you tell me why you should believe?
Bottom double line 'Which god?' and Pascal's wager is a fail.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #143TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:06 amSo is yours, if Islam is true. Tell me why you don't believe that religion. Hint - we already did 'Muslims don't recognise Jesus' (yours or someone else). and that doesn't work. Not least because the Jews don't either so that's Christianity outvoted.kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:11 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pmOr as I say, it is a tall story, like a lot of Genesis. Why should I think the talking serpent story is true?kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:22 pm
Serpents cant speak-thus 1+1= 2
Your life everlasting is on the line, you tell me why you should believe?
Bottom double line 'Which god?' and Pascal's wager is a fail.
True God worship history= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) whosent his son-Jesus the Messiah on mankinds behalf. Much more than a mere prophet.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #144You are simply asserting the Christian claims as true. As I said, both Islam and Judaism reject this. Why do you believe Christianity and reject Islam? The point being that unless you have very sound reasons for doing so (more than just faithclaims) your 'Life' is as much under threat as mine. even without getting into whether you have the right denomination of Christianity or even the right Scriptual Interpretation.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:15 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:06 amSo is yours, if Islam is true. Tell me why you don't believe that religion. Hint - we already did 'Muslims don't recognise Jesus' (yours or someone else). and that doesn't work. Not least because the Jews don't either so that's Christianity outvoted.kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:11 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pmOr as I say, it is a tall story, like a lot of Genesis. Why should I think the talking serpent story is true?kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:22 pm
Serpents cant speak-thus 1+1= 2
Your life everlasting is on the line, you tell me why you should believe?
Bottom double line 'Which god?' and Pascal's wager is a fail.
True God worship history= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) whosent his son-Jesus the Messiah on mankinds behalf. Much more than a mere prophet.
"Hi. welcome to Hell, first day? What are you in for?"
"Idolatry, lying, Blaspheming, fornication and drunkenness. What are you in for?"
"Misinterpreting 'Aios'."
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #145TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:28 amYou are simply asserting the Christian claims as true. As I said, both Islam and Judaism reject this. Why do you believe Christianity and reject Islam? The point being that unless you have very sound reasons for doing so (more than just faithclaims) your 'Life' is as much under threat as mine. even without getting into whether you have the right denomination of Christianity or even the right Scriptual Interpretation.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:15 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:06 amSo is yours, if Islam is true. Tell me why you don't believe that religion. Hint - we already did 'Muslims don't recognise Jesus' (yours or someone else). and that doesn't work. Not least because the Jews don't either so that's Christianity outvoted.kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:11 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pmOr as I say, it is a tall story, like a lot of Genesis. Why should I think the talking serpent story is true?kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:22 pm
Serpents cant speak-thus 1+1= 2
Your life everlasting is on the line, you tell me why you should believe?
Bottom double line 'Which god?' and Pascal's wager is a fail.
True God worship history= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) whosent his son-Jesus the Messiah on mankinds behalf. Much more than a mere prophet.
"Hi. welcome to Hell, first day? What are you in for?"
"Idolatry, lying, Blaspheming, fornication and drunkenness. What are you in for?"
"Misinterpreting 'Aios'."
Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #146You seem to be saying that
Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave
And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #147It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #148Assuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?
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Post #149Miles wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:02 pmAssuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?
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All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #150I never claimed there was.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:26 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:28 amYou are simply asserting the Christian claims as true. As I said, both Islam and Judaism reject this. Why do you believe Christianity and reject Islam? The point being that unless you have very sound reasons for doing so (more than just faithclaims) your 'Life' is as much under threat as mine. even without getting into whether you have the right denomination of Christianity or even the right Scriptual Interpretation.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:15 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:06 amSo is yours, if Islam is true. Tell me why you don't believe that religion. Hint - we already did 'Muslims don't recognise Jesus' (yours or someone else). and that doesn't work. Not least because the Jews don't either so that's Christianity outvoted.kjw47 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:11 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pmOr as I say, it is a tall story, like a lot of Genesis. Why should I think the talking serpent story is true?
Your life everlasting is on the line, you tell me why you should believe?
Bottom double line 'Which god?' and Pascal's wager is a fail.
True God worship history= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) whosent his son-Jesus the Messiah on mankinds behalf. Much more than a mere prophet.
"Hi. welcome to Hell, first day? What are you in for?"
"Idolatry, lying, Blaspheming, fornication and drunkenness. What are you in for?"
"Misinterpreting 'Aios'."
Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.
Don't read too much into that as a metaphor, I'm surprised by how much events in my surroundings intrude into my sleep. But that aside, what's your point?